Younger Brothers new truck is already in the shop for electrical issues

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My brother just bought a new 2026 1500 with the Hurricane 2 weeks ago,and it's already in the shop for electrical issues. I warned him the trucks have a good drivetrain,but the new electrical system leaves a bit to be desired.He phoned me last night just ranting about it,as the truck doesn't even have 500 kilometers on it yet,and it's going back to the dealer on a tow truck today.I'm scared to phone him for an update,as he was spitting rocks last night he was so mad ;)
 

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My brother just bought a new 2026 1500 with the Hurricane 2 weeks ago,and it's already in the shop for electrical issues. I warned him the trucks have a good drivetrain,but the new electrical system leaves a bit to be desired.He phoned me last night just ranting about it,as the truck doesn't even have 500 kilometers on it yet,and it's going back to the dealer on a tow truck today.I'm scared to phone him for an update,as he was spitting rocks last night he was so mad ;)
Funny how PPL not listen to warnings. Did he get a SST or HO motor, ie., which model??? He say wat was wrong? No start, battery, un friggin known???
 
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Funny how PPL not listen to warnings. Did he get a SST or HO motor, ie., which model??? He say wat was wrong? No start, battery, un friggin known???
Apparently everything from wipers to heater and horn started blowing full tilt,while he was sitting at a light,then it revved itself to the moon just before it completely died on him. I didn't really get to say much as he was so mad i could hardly get a word in sideways,lol
 

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Apparently everything from wipers to heater and horn started blowing full tilt,while he was sitting at a light,then it revved itself to the moon just before it completely died on him. I didn't really get to say much as he was so mad i could hardly get a word in sideways,lol
Silence could be golden. Does he have lower trim like a Biggyhorn with SST or Higher trim like Laramie Limited with HO?
 
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Silence could be golden. Does he have lower trim like a Biggyhorn with SST or Higher trim like Laramie Limited with HO?
I'm not sure as i haven't seen the truck,he's 250 miles away from me,and i didn't ask him which trim level he bought when he told me he was buying a new truck a couple days before he bought it
 
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Well the local Dealer where he bought it, had the truck for a day and couldn't find anything wrong with it as far as codes go,so they gave the truck back to him,and told him to drive it and see if it does it again. He's not a happy camper you might say,as now he's not sure he trusts the truck anymore.The truck is a lower level truck with the standard output Hurricane,he does like the power it has when it's running :waytogo: :Big Laugh:
 

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This is what gets me…….
How the f”&k can there be a fault, especially a non start issue, or one like your brothers and then all is okay, no codes, “ just drive it to see if it’s okay”
Well, it WILL be okay until it’s not again! Possibly miles from home and stuck!
Makes my little camera issue seem petty. But all part of the same issue, ELECTRICS!
 

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Well the local Dealer where he bought it, had the truck for a day and couldn't find anything wrong with it as far as codes go,so they gave the truck back to him,and told him to drive it and see if it does it again. He's not a happy camper you might say,as now he's not sure he trusts the truck anymore.The truck is a lower level truck with the standard output Hurricane,he does like the power it has when it's running :waytogo: :Big Laugh:

Is your brother very automotively or, more importantly, electronically inclined?

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This is what gets me…….
How the f”&k can there be a fault, especially a non start issue, or one like your brothers and then all is okay, no codes, “ just drive it to see if it’s okay”
Well, it WILL be okay until it’s not again! Possibly miles from home and stuck!
Makes my little camera issue seem petty. But all part of the same issue, ELECTRICS!

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that there are always related codes.

The big fault in the system is the inability to capture these codes and display them as historical data.

If the codes were truly latching, requiring acknowledgement, we would likely spend far too much time resetting. And more importantly, the stealership would be exhaustively busier with warranty-related issues to sort out.

Does any manufacturer make a cost-effective device to capture CAN bus messages?

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Mount Phone where dash is visible, put it on video record for every trip. If the issue recurs, he will have captured video proof. Hope he gets it sorted, but to be honest, my little brother doesn't listen to me either. He insists on learning the hard and costly way.
 

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Well the local Dealer where he bought it, had the truck for a day and couldn't find anything wrong with it as far as codes go,so they gave the truck back to him,and told him to drive it and see if it does it again. He's not a happy camper you might say,as now he's not sure he trusts the truck anymore.The truck is a lower level truck with the standard output Hurricane,he does like the power it has when it's running :waytogo: :Big Laugh:
I’ve seen this a few times in the facepage groups. Truck won’t crank, completely dead, tow truck delivers to dealer, dealer gets in and pushes button, cranks right up, no codes. lol
 
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Is your brother very automotively or, more importantly, electronically inclined?

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Not overly,he grew up on the same farm as i did,but he didn't aquire anywhere near the knowledge i did,but then again i was born a gearhead and he wasn't,as he never raced anything like i did.He wasn't into snowmobile or bike/car racing like i was,he was more a gym rat,as he's alot bigger then me,and muscle bound,as he spends all his spare time in the local gym :Big Laugh: The one thing i'll say is he's alot better cook then me,even i will hardly eat what i cook,while he knows his way around a kitchen or BBQ way more then i do:Big Laugh:
I told him to go buy himself a better quality Jump Box,so he can boost it,if it does die when he's out somewhere away from home
 

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Not overly,he grew up on the same farm as i did,but he didn't aquire anywhere near the knowledge i did,but then again i was born a gearhead and he wasn't,as he never raced anything like i did.He wasn't into snowmobile or bike/car racing like i was,he was more a gym rat,as he's alot bigger then me,and muscle bound,as he spends all his spare time in the local gym :Big Laugh: The one thing i'll say is he's alot better cook then me,even i will hardly eat what i cook,while he knows his way around a kitchen or BBQ way more then i do:Big Laugh:

I told him to go buy himself a better quality Jump Box,so he can boost it,if it does die when he's out somewhere away from home

I hope he is wise enough to take that advice. While it won't solve all of the potential headaches, it may remedy being trapped on the road. As we know, a jump box is extremely inexpensive insurance.

I have a new theory about why we hear so many horror stories about Atlantis High-based trucks.
It's a case of the same old typical wiring faults.

The most likely primary root cause is that Stellantis is not able to consistently construct a robust CAN bus system.
This is why we often see a flood of unrelated and erratic electronic devices FU BAR.

The following is a quote from the founder of AutoPi from Denmark;

"CAN bus is reliable when the bus is designed and wired correctly. Most real-world problems we see are not caused by CAN as a protocol, but by wiring, termination, bitrate mismatch, or missing signal definitions."

As always and especially in electronics, the larger, busier, and more complex of the network features, translates to a much higher risk of errors and failures.

I will bet the older truck's CAN bus networks have a different method of construction or materials used.
No doubt, someone found a method to save a buck at the expense of having a consistently reliable, constructed CAN bus system.

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I hope he is wise enough to take that advice. While it won't solve all of the potential headaches, it may remedy being trapped on the road. As we know, a jump box is extremely inexpensive insurance.

I have a new theory about why we hear so many horror stories about Atlantis High-based trucks.
It's a case of the same old typical wiring faults.

The most likely primary root cause is that Stellantis is not able to consistently construct a robust CAN bus system.
This is why we often see a flood of unrelated and erratic electronic devices FU BAR.

The following is a quote from the founder of AutoPi from Denmark;

"CAN bus is reliable when the bus is designed and wired correctly. Most real-world problems we see are not caused by CAN as a protocol, but by wiring, termination, bitrate mismatch, or missing signal definitions."

As always and especially in electronics, the larger, busier, and more complex of the network features, translates to a much higher risk of errors and failures.

I will bet the older truck's CAN bus networks have a different method of construction or materials used.
No doubt, someone found a method to save a buck at the expense of having a consistently reliable, constructed CAN bus system.

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Lots of reports of wiring harnesses being a bit short,and stretched to the limit,so if the truck twists slightly or the engine shifts around on the liquid filled motor mounts,connections that a bit tight suffer ,and i'm guessing shortening the harnesses up is some bean counters genius idea to save a couple cents on every vehicle
 

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And I could just as easily have told him how my 2026 has been just about flawless so far (only 5 months).

A 50% failure rate would mean about 16k people a month are trouble free. Failure rates are obviously not 50%, but what rate are you willing to roll the dice on no matter how many thousands of people are reporting no issues?
 

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Lots of reports of wiring harnesses being a bit short,and stretched to the limit,so if the truck twists slightly or the engine shifts around on the liquid filled motor mounts,connections that a bit tight suffer ,and i'm guessing shortening the harnesses up is some bean counters genius idea to save a couple cents on every vehicle

Yup!

 

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Yup!

Wait a minute…weren’t you the one so concerned with all the “hurricane problems”???
 
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