Catch Can ... no oil usage without it???
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Good question, yes you will see that catch can full regardless. You may not be taking out 7qrts like you think. In fact if the catch isn't full, that would suggest a much bigger problem.
yortnodnarb
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Over the coarse of a 7-8k oil change interval you're only talking catching ounces of "stuff" in the can (cold climate will be more due to condensation). If some of those ounces is water vapor, some is fuel vapor and some is oil, are you really going to notice that little bit of oil missing when you drain it?? Probably not. Is you're intake going to notice it over the coarse of 10's of thousands of miles?? For sure.
I'll admit I never heard of catch cans until I stumbled upon this site. Now that I have 1 and relatively understand it's benefit, and seen first hand the **** it prevents from being reintroduced into the engine, I'm glad I have 1 installed.
yortnodnarb
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Ditto to what was said. Burla beat me to it.
An additional search on this forum says the 6.4 has an internal system(?) so I don't need a catch can.
http://www.ramforum.com/threads/oil-catch-can-for-6-4.105421/
Truth?
But Amazon has one for sale?
https://www.amazon.com/UPR-Billet-Technology-Bracket-5032-048/dp/B00I0FJCW4
https://www.modernmusclextreme.com/p-476-64l-392-hemi-catchcan-system-by-billet-technology.aspx
http://www.ramforum.com/threads/oil-catch-can-for-6-4.105421/
Truth?
But Amazon has one for sale?
https://www.amazon.com/UPR-Billet-Technology-Bracket-5032-048/dp/B00I0FJCW4
https://www.modernmusclextreme.com/p-476-64l-392-hemi-catchcan-system-by-billet-technology.aspx
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Yes, you can't have a catch can with a 6.4 that I know of. You should have included that in your post about the 6.4. So you can check yourself, catch cans usually attach where the pcv valve is, but I believe you don't have one right? So you would need to put it in a return line that is acting like a traditional pcv, I don't know that you have that. If there is a line that looks like it is going to the intake you can remove it and see if material is coming through, like drops. Especially if that line is attached to the valve cover. In theory you can attach it there, but I just don't know that is what the 6.4 has. I can't find a diagram for the 6.4 pcv system, if you can that would be helpful.
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Fuel system cleaner dex, fuel system cleaner, same thing
Get a PEA one.
Actually gas burns dirty all by itself, so if you had to choose between a PEA fuel cleaner and a catch can, the PEA fuel cleaner (with monthly usage) will keep the combustion chamber cleaner anyhow.
Get a PEA one.
Actually gas burns dirty all by itself, so if you had to choose between a PEA fuel cleaner and a catch can, the PEA fuel cleaner (with monthly usage) will keep the combustion chamber cleaner anyhow.
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The 6.4L Ram's PCV system is all internal. The ones you see for sale on Amazon, eBay, etc., are for the challengers and chargers with the car version of the 6.4L Hemi. Different animals.
The PCV valve on the Ram 6.4L screws in toward the back of the intake manifold. It is replaceable, but has no outlets. That being said, you 'could' rig up a catch can if you were willing to do some drilling.
I'm undecided as to whether I will keep this truck or not yet. If I do decide to keep it for the long haul, this and many other things are on the list of mods for sure.
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I've been using mine wrong! All this time I thought you were supposed to EMPTY itBwahahahaha.
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Well duh, that's how you get +50hp, by putting octane booster in it....
Bwahahahaha.
I knew someone was going to say something as soon as I hit submit but was too lazy to edit it lol
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Not fair... Those darn Europeans get 50
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Catch cans are over rated.
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He’s prob serious. Likes to say things like that just to get a rise out of people, also likes to bash kicker. Just ignore and move on.
That being said, I run one and I have to empty it multiple times between oil changes. They have there purpose and can help prevent future issues. Keeping as much out of the chamber besides Air/fuel and spark is a good thing. There’s already oil in there from the rings but too much can cause detonation or foul a plug. It’s the same reason we run air filters on engines to keep **** out of Engine. Even small particulates can cause Accelerated Engine wear.
That being said, I run one and I have to empty it multiple times between oil changes. They have there purpose and can help prevent future issues. Keeping as much out of the chamber besides Air/fuel and spark is a good thing. There’s already oil in there from the rings but too much can cause detonation or foul a plug. It’s the same reason we run air filters on engines to keep **** out of Engine. Even small particulates can cause Accelerated Engine wear.
