IS IT TIME 5.7 TO GET DROPPED ???

[ramffml]

I’ve owned 15,17 and 19 ram with 5.7
Also we have owned 17,19,21 f150s
17 was a 5.0 19 was a 2.7 and 21 is 3.5
I guess my fuel bills lying to me.
Fords been best selling truck on the market for how many years. And they have had how many engine options for there Half tons
Mean while rams has ran the same engine since 2010. So yes your right Probaly more 5.7s on the road. Ticking everywhere they go.

Let me know when Ford has the confidence to put their ecobooms in a 3/4 ton. I'll wait. The 5.7 hemi is the only half ton engine used (successfully) in a 2500 that saw extreme work usage.

Ford doesn't believe in their turbos for heavy duty usage, so they spent millions on a new big block 7.3 for obvious reasons.

 

[mikeru]

Let me know when Ford has the confidence to put their ecobooms in a 3/4 ton. I'll wait. The 5.7 hemi is the only half ton engine used (successfully) in a 2500 that saw extreme work usage.

Not exactly true. I owned a couple Chevy square body K20's with the small block 350. That engine, in my opinion, is the epitome of what a work horse is. Not knocking the 5.7 Hemi, but small block Chevy engines were much more likely to run for hundreds of thousands of miles than our beloved Hemi.

 

[ramffml]

Not exactly true. I owned a couple Chevy square body K20's with the small block 350. That engine, in my opinion, is the epitome of what a work horse is. Not knocking the 5.7 Hemi, but small block Chevy engines were much more likely to run for hundreds of thousands of miles than our beloved Hemi.

Well I'm sure the answer changes if we go back to 1920's too; I'm referring to recent engines, specifically what engines you can currently buy right now new.

It's also not "beloved hemi" for me, it's an engine with good qualities and some areas it needs attention. No doubt the the 350 was a great engine (we had a 305 in our family for years) but it output half the power, with 4 times the fuel and 8 times the emissions.

 

[Sammy]

Cool, awesome and good on you. So take your Ford and non ticking engine over to the Ford forum.

Lol delete me IDC

 

[Farmer Fran]

Lol delete me IDC

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[Sammy]

Let me know when Ford has the confidence to put their ecobooms in a 3/4 ton. I'll wait. The 5.7 hemi is the only half ton engine used (successfully) in a 2500 that saw extreme work usage.

Ford doesn't believe in their turbos for heavy duty usage, so they spent millions on a new big block 7.3 for obvious reasons.

I don’t know I don’t work for ford. Do you??
And tow 13,000pounds max? With 4:10s riding at 3500 rpm’s at 60mph
Stopping at every fuel Station.
Mean while all are half tons can tow that much now.
I don’t see your argument here.
It wasn’t successful. It was a company theifing money from hard working folks. leading them on to think that that little engine could do the job of a 3/4
Type ram 2500 5.7 towing into google and see what people think of them….

 

[Sammy]

Cool, awesome and good on you. So take your Ford and non ticking engine over to the Ford forum.

I thought you guys asked if we thought the 5.7 should be dropped?
Why ask if you can’t take the heat?
I just come for the idiots that ask. “ can my truck tow this”. Lol
I used to be a die hard mopar guy. But after the issues I’ve had with fca’s **** products and **** service I’ve had enough. Change your truck you might be less irritable!

 

[Razzman]

Well it seems the OP gets his wish if you believe the media; Stellantis Cancelling Hemi V8

 

[MADDOG]

You all need to calm down and remain civil with one another.

 

[ramffml]

I don’t know I don’t work for ford. Do you??
And tow 13,000pounds max? With 4:10s riding at 3500 rpm’s at 60mph
Stopping at every fuel Station.
Mean while all are half tons can tow that much now.
I don’t see your argument here.
It wasn’t successful. It was a company theifing money from hard working folks. leading them on to think that that little engine could do the job of a 3/4
Type ram 2500 5.7 towing into google and see what people think of them….

If your point is that the ford turbo makes more power, ok, I guess? We all know what would happen if we turbo/super charge a hemi, you get the 700-800 hp monsters that Ford fan girls can only dream of. So what's your point?

The hemi also drastically beats the ecobooms in MPG when it comes to towing. Watch some real world reviews, turbos suck the fuel back like a thirsty alcoholic.

Give me some solid evidence (you have some, don't you?) besides "google it" that the 2500/5.7 was a bust because I can find anything on google including the fact that the world is flat. I don't mean "lack of power" either, we all know putting a 5.7 in a heavier truck like a 2500 will reduce the towing capability compared to a 1500. The 5.7 was never meant to be a tow rig in the 2500, it's a base engine. They were still worked hard, power notwithstanding. Number of guys on this forum have them.

I don't know why you're so bitter but you're in the wrong forum, sunshine.

 

[ChaosMike]

Am I the only one that remembers the 80s and something having just over 200hp being plenty for anything and woo boy if you had something 3 or 400 hp? Granted comparing apples to oranges but saying nearly anything these days is truly underpowered is a bit of an exaggeration.

 

[Sammy]

Well it seems the OP gets his wish if you believe the media; Stellantis Cancelling Hemi V8

If your point is that the ford turbo makes more power, ok, I guess? We all know what would happen if we turbo/super charge a hemi, you get the 700-800 hp monsters that Ford fan girls can only dream of. So what's your point?

The hemi also drastically beats the ecobooms in MPG when it comes to towing. Watch some real world reviews, turbos suck the fuel back like a thirsty alcoholic.

Give me some solid evidence (you have some, don't you?) besides "google it" that the 2500/5.7 was a bust because I can find anything on google including the fact that the world is flat. I don't mean "lack of power" either, we all know putting a 5.7 in a heavier truck like a 2500 will reduce the towing capability compared to a 1500. The 5.7 was never meant to be a tow rig in the 2500, it's a base engine. They were still worked hard, power notwithstanding. Number of guys on this forum have them.

I don't know why you're so bitter but you're in the wrong forum, sunshine.

Have you not read any of my other posts? I know real world fuel mpg of the ford and the ram. Don’t need to look online
I can get 700-800 hp on my stock internals. Can the Hemi?

If the 5.7 wasn’t meant for towing or hauling then why was it in a 3/4ton?

I just finished asking farmer Fran why he’s been so irritable to me. OP is the one who asked “ should the 5.7 be dropped” and all the ram fan girls are getting worked up about it.

 

[JoeCo]

Am I the only one that remembers the 80s and something having just over 200hp being plenty for anything and woo boy if you had something 3 or 400 hp? Granted comparing apples to oranges but saying nearly anything these days is truly underpowered is a bit of an exaggeration.

I was born in 86 but I clearly remember seeing cars in the 90s (from the 80s) that as my dad would say "couldn't get out of their own way".

 

[2012RAM1500RT]

I have a 2012 Ram 2500 with the 5.7 as a mechanic truck and I know it's not towing but it has hauled 9000 lbs since day one flawlessly and has 219,000 miles on it. Not a race truck but it has no problem getting up to speed when I need it to. Don't know what else I would need.

 

[ChaosMike]

I was born in 86 but I clearly remember seeing cars in the 90s (from the 80s) that as my dad would say "couldn't get out of their own way".

Oh hell yeah, I owned a few (shudders from memories of my Citation). But if you could take even some really low level stuff from now and go back in time, you'd be beating the "fast" stuff then. Just saying an 80's era big block 3/4 ton would have seemed very sufficient for the task of towing back then but certainly not by today's standards (if still in stock form)

 

[ramffml]

Have you not read any of my other posts? I know real world fuel mpg of the ford and the ram. Don’t need to look online
I can get 700-800 hp on my stock internals. Can the Hemi?

If the 5.7 wasn’t meant for towing or hauling then why was it in a 3/4ton?

I just finished asking farmer Fran why he’s been so irritable to me. OP is the one who asked “ should the 5.7 be dropped” and all the ram fan girls are getting worked up about it.

The 5.7 was a base engine. Just like the base N/A v6 in the ford lineup doesn't tow as well as the ecoboom. The 5.7 was seriously used and abused for many years though, by many landscapers/contractors etc, it held up very well.

Ford doesn't have the confidence to turbo charge their F250s. I think that pretty much sums up the argument. It's not about peak HP/Torque, that's one small bit of data on an engine, but there is much more to worry about.

You should ask some resident forum members who drag race their 5.7 hemis what it can do.

 

[Sammy]

The 5.7 was a base engine. Just like the base N/A v6 in the ford lineup doesn't tow as well as the ecoboom. The 5.7 was seriously used and abused for many years though, by many landscapers/contractors etc, it held up very well.

Ford doesn't have the confidence to turbo charge their F250s. I think that pretty much sums up the argument. It's not about peak HP/Torque, that's one small bit of data on an engine, but there is much more to worry about.

You should ask some resident forum members who drag race their 5.7 hemis what it can do.

That makes sense for a half ton but not 3/4 tons. That’s what those trucks are for towing and hauling. It’s not a 4 door crew cab soccer mom half ton.
I’ve read many posts on this site on what guys drag racing are able to do.

Thanks for the entertainment

 

[ramffml]

That makes sense for a half ton but not 3/4 tons. That’s what those trucks are for towing and hauling. It’s not a 4 door crew cab soccer mom half ton.

Exactly. It towed and hauled and was abused for many years, and came out on top. It was not the most powerful 3/4 ton gasser, but it was durable and dependable and took a beating.

Let me know when Ford does the same with an ecoboost.

 

[Sammy]

Exactly. It towed and hauled and was abused for many years, and came out on top. It was not the most powerful 3/4 ton gasser, but it was durable and dependable and took a beating.

Let me know when Ford does the same with an ecoboost.

Hahaha we both have two different opinions what “on top” means
Just wait another year or two. There will be one in the 1tons.

 

[ramffml]

Hahaha we both have two different opinions what “on top” means
Just wait another year or two. There will be one in the 1tons.

... it came out on top of the abuse.