Why should I stay with RAM?

DanAR · Mar 14, 2024

A minor issue but I’ve seen a number of Laramie equipped RAMs with the powered running boards. Matter of fact there is a 2500 Laramie with the powered running boards a couple of blocks from me. Maybe a dealer add, not sure.

But I agree, need to be comparing the Ford Platinum to a Limited RAM. And then look at what both are actually selling for after discounts.

ginandtonic · Mar 14, 2024

Ram interiors > any other trucks on the market, looks and comfort-wise.

TestPilot57 · Mar 14, 2024

BossHogg said:
To the OP - You are comparing RAM's Laramie to Ford's Platinum trims. That isn't a fair comparison, the Platinum trim is Ford's top-of-the-line whereas the Laramie is the entry-level into RAM's higher trim packages.

Actually, the Laramie and Platinum are both the highest trim level available with a Gas engine. Anything higher from either company have a diesel, which makes them totally inadmissible for me.

TestPilot57 · Mar 14, 2024

nlambert182 said:
A little different, but in the same vein, when we bought the Armada we were looking for an Infiniti QX80. We test drove it and the Armada Platinum and figured out that aside from aesthetics, the only real difference was air suspension over traditional coil spring. Both rode extremely well, but there were additional options available on the Platinum that were not on the QX80s. We bought the Platinum for about $15k less than the QX80.

Might be something for the OP to consider.

I'm not sure what you're referring to?

FYI I did compare the Platinum to the Lariat, and by the time I got the options I wanted on the Lariat it was as much as the Platinum (on which there are virtually no dollar add-on options), but missing some things.

TestPilot57 · Mar 14, 2024

DanAR said:
But I agree, need to be comparing the Ford Platinum to a Limited RAM. And then look at what both are actually selling for after discounts.

You can't get a RAM Limited with a Gas engine. At least, according to their site.

Scottly · Mar 14, 2024

I have purchased, new, a 2018 Ram 2500 with Cummins. a 2020 2500 Chevrolet Duramax, a 2021 Ram 3500 with H/O Cummins, and now own a 2024 Chevrolet 2500 Duramax. Trans is a 10sp, but it is NOT the same as Ford....The 1/2 ton unit is albeit very similar to Ford. The issues with the 10spd in the heavy duty trucks is unique to Ford. The Chevy dealer had to replace the transmission in the 2020...at 354K miles. "Thousand" in case you read wrong. The Cummins had more power than the Duramax. The Duramax Chevy had a smoother ride. My friend's Ford, used to tow a 5th wheel from Florida to Montana and back every year, dropped the turbo at 100K ($18K repair), dropped the radiator soon after, dropped the trans at 130K, pooped the rear axle at 143K, and had various other repairs that total, according to the owner, over $40K in it's lifetime. All trucks break...But some more than others. For me, that's a Ford. I'll never own another.

Dutra · Mar 14, 2024

My truck has been nothing but problems from the start. From the abs and the fan clutch all with under 52k miles. My dodge experience has been bad. Also, a simple google search on the 68RFE transmission tells you all you need to hear

Nickx86 · Mar 14, 2024

TestPilot57 said:
We are planning to trade in our Class-C motorhome for a travel trailer. While my 1500 technically has the capability of handling a 10k trailer, I do not want to be running near the limit for thousands of miles so I will be going to a 3/4 ton. I was just going to go with a new Ram because I've been so happy with my last 2. But the TT salesman mentioned something about Ford having a PowerBoost on their F150s and maybe adding to their F250s. This in conjunction with the fact that we are looking at Airstream and they don't have on-board generators, and the PowerBoost becomes either a 2.2 or 7.4kw generator. Turns out that option is not available on the F250 yet, and maybe never.

Anyways, it got me looking at Ford (and GM) to compare. What I found is that for a mid-upper range model (Laramie vs Platinum), for the same money you get a lot more in the Ford.

Most important to me are the engine* (7.3L, 430hp/485lb-ft) and a 2kw Pro Power outlet. Plus lots of minor things, such as a built-in scale, power tailgate (with a "tailgate down" camera), power running boards (appear to be not available on the Laramie even in a package), head-up display, wireless carplay, and the list goes on. Also, towing capacity is 1800# higher and payload is up 750# over Ram.

I drove an XLT the other day to get a feel for the truck and powertrain itself and was suitably impressed. Waiting to get to a Platinum - there aren't many around here in the sticks.

Am I missing something(s)?

*Same as we have in our motorhome and it is impressive.

biggest draw back to the current 3/4 and 1 ton ram is the smaller cab, the ram 1500 cab is drastically bigger, comparable to the F250 and GM 2500 cab size. Also you do get a bigger bed with both the GM and Ford. I would test drive all 3 brands and see what fits you the best. If your looking for the best on road manner truck, GM twins will be the best, Ram 2500 ride quite nicely, ford are the least refine when it comes to ride comfort over long distance.

Ram trucks still only have the 10k gvw on 3/4 ton trucks. Both GM and ford went past the 10k gvw on the 3/4 ton trucks hence the added payload but not necessarily added rear axle capacity

7.3 is a beast of an engine but they are having teething issues and the 10 speeds are as well

GM 6.6 with the Allison branded 10 speed is also having some issues as well.

The next generation ram 2500 and 3500 can’t come out soon enough tbh

Mister Luck · Mar 14, 2024

You have the 6.4 you must be joking ?
Upgrade the suspension and tires you can’t go wrong unless you just prefer to have the minimum maintenance schedule and trade it in..

If I wanted a dedicated rig to pull a travel trailer I would buy a chassis cab outfit it with an aluminum flatbed and have a fifth wheel installed on either a RAM 3500 or an F450

If you travel any amount of distance across state lines , you will have less road fatigue, your recovery times will be better and you’ll enjoy yourself more.

TestPilot57 · Mar 14, 2024

Mister Luck said:
You have the 6.4 you must be joking ?

6.4 is not available in the 1500 from the factory. So no, I do not have the 6.4.

TestPilot57 · Mar 14, 2024

Nickx86 said:
Ram trucks still only have the 10k gvw on 3/4 ton trucks. Both GM and ford went past the 10k gvw on the 3/4 ton trucks hence the added payload but not necessarily added rear axle capacity

I am looking at the 10k GVWR setup. Yes, they do have upgrades from there but I don't see the need in my application.

nlambert182 · Mar 14, 2024

TestPilot57 said:
I'm not sure what you're referring to?

FYI I did compare the Platinum to the Lariat, and by the time I got the options I wanted on the Lariat it was as much as the Platinum (on which there are virtually no dollar add-on options), but missing some things.

I never found there to be enough of a difference between a Limited/Platinum to justify the extra cost. Same as when we looked at the Infiniti vs the Nissan.

What options do you just want in a Platinum that you wouldn't find in a Limited, or in comparison a Limited Ram?

It's different for everyone so I'm not knocking it. Just curious.

Cmz2800 · Mar 14, 2024

Aesthetically, it’s subjective. At the end of the day they’re all new trucks with the most innovative systems therefore you can’t really go bad with neither.
Now subjectively, I really like the 2500’s from all three manufacturers. The new GMC 2500 with the duramax is absolutely beautiful. The new F250 looks a bit smaller than the previous year. The Ram 2500 didn’t change much from last years model. So….. ME personally, if I were looking to buy a new truck, id probably go with the 2024 GMC 2500 Denali.

Forsakentalon · Mar 14, 2024

Just my dumb input. But I live on the main interstate that leads away from the RV manufacturing capital of the world. I see way more professional RV pullers/delivery services driving Rams, second place is Ford. Then, almost never a GM.

crazy jerry · Mar 14, 2024

Units said:
. So why bother talking you off a cliff?

i say let him jump.
when people dont have the sense to do alot of research on $80k vehicles ,they deserve what they get.
plenty of ford forums out there. hundreds of threads. no secret what youll be buying

Mister Luck · Mar 15, 2024

TestPilot57 said:
6.4 is not available in the 1500 from the factory. So no, I do not have the 6.4.

Sorry I was looking at the member who quoted your post my mistake

GTyankee · Mar 15, 2024

I am waiting on the FORCED carbon neutral mandates to suddenly change, until after November.

The mandate was signed off by our man onpennsylvaniaave
Nowhe says thatmaybe it was premature
But he signed off on it & it is in the hands of the EPA, so he cannot change it

BUT watch who is going to continue building V-8 engines
& who is not

This company realized that WE as a nation do not have anywhere near the Infrastructure needed to support EV cars & just forget about Electric Trucks.
Maybe try Hydrogen next time

My computer is messingup , especiallythe pointing devices & software, it won't even remain on the current thread
LOL,guess it may begetting old,its a Toshiba Satellite L775 w/ Windows 7
with a built in CD player

BossHogg · Mar 15, 2024

TestPilot57 said:
Actually, the Laramie and Platinum are both the highest trim level available with a Gas engine. Anything higher from either company have a diesel, which makes them totally inadmissible for me.

I couldn't believe that until I researched it. Apparently, RAM HDs HEMI trucks only made up 5% of their sales. The rumor is the Hurricane will replace the HEMI but why they don't show the Hurricane as an option is a mystery. From what I could find, this started with the 2023 model year.

BossHogg · Mar 15, 2024

Dutra said:
My truck has been nothing but problems from the start. From the abs and the fan clutch all with under 52k miles. My dodge experience has been bad. Also, a simple google search on the 68RFE transmission tells you all you need to hear

Do you mean your RAM experience has been bad? The 68RFE transmission is just fine when used as advertised. I know I have one that has been pulling 16K worth of RV all around our great country without issues, in fact, the entire truck has been without issues excluding the few recalls. I'm not unique, there are hundreds of thousands of other trucks with the same experiences.

Unfortunately, you have had continuing issues but the vast majority of owners don't.

mtnrider · Mar 15, 2024

Dutra said:
My truck has been nothing but problems from the start. From the abs and the fan clutch all with under 52k miles. My dodge experience has been bad. Also, a simple google search on the 68RFE transmission tells you all you need to hear

99% of those issues with the 68RFE are because people tune and crank up the HP. Rare for them to fail in stock form. It also looks like you have a gas engine which does Not have a 68RFE

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