2 step wiring

[Hemi_Venom]

So I just wired up a Stage6 Motorsports 2 step in to my 2014 Ram 1500 5.7. I've tapped in to all the negative wires on the ignition coils and 1 hot wire.
My question for today is I am wiring it to a handheld momentary switch instead of the brake switch. There are 3 wires. 1 for positive trigger, 1 for negative trigger, and one ground. On the momentary switch there are 2 prongs. What is the proper way to wire it? I have it where one prong goes to 12v (cig lighter), and the other prong goes to the negative trigger wire on the 2 step. And the ground is grounded in the engine bay. something tells me I did it wrong. Haven't ran it yet to test it though.
Or do I just have to have the 1 negative trigger wire go to the momentary switch and nothing else to the other prong?

Anyone good at electricals that can help out? Thanks

 

[Fast69Mopar]

So I just wired up a Stage6 Motorsports 2 step in to my 2014 Ram 1500 5.7. I've tapped in to all the negative wires on the ignition coils and 1 hot wire.
My question for today is I am wiring it to a handheld momentary switch instead of the brake switch. There are 3 wires. 1 for positive trigger, 1 for negative trigger, and one ground. On the momentary switch there are 2 prongs. What is the proper way to wire it? I have it where one prong goes to 12v (cig lighter), and the other prong goes to the negative trigger wire on the 2 step. And the ground is grounded in the engine bay. something tells me I did it wrong. Haven't ran it yet to test it though.
Or do I just have to have the 1 negative trigger wire go to the momentary switch and nothing else to the other prong?

Anyone good at electricals that can help out? Thanks

If you want to use the negative trigger which is the blue wire, you do not need to have B+ power connected to the switch from the power outlet. If you are using the negative trigger then one terminal of your switch should go to ground and the other terminal should have the blue wire connected to it.

If you want to use the positive trigger then leave the B+ hot wire from the power outlet connected to one terminal on your switch and connect the white/blue wire to the other terminal and test it's operation. When you press your switch and the contacts close the red light should appear on the 2-step box to show it has been activated.

Do not use both trigger wires at the same time. You only need one whether you want to use the positive or negative trigger wire.

 

[Hemi_Venom]

If you want to use the negative trigger which is the blue wire, you do not need to have B+ power connected to the switch from the power outlet. If you are using the negative trigger then one terminal of your switch should go to ground and the other terminal should have the blue wire connected to it.

If you want to use the positive trigger then leave the B+ hot wire from the power outlet connected to one terminal on your switch and connect the white/blue wire to the other terminal and test it's operation. When you press your switch and the contacts close the red light should appear on the 2-step box to show it has been activated.

Do not use both trigger wires at the same time. You only need one whether you want to use the positive or negative trigger wire.

Awesome! I knew I had something crossed lol. I will do a quick switch of the wires then. Thanks for the help!

 

[Fast69Mopar]

Awesome! I knew I had something crossed lol. I will do a quick switch of the wires then. Thanks for the help!

No problem. I totally understand the confusion that comes with this kit when you open it for the first time. Their instructions, if in the package at all, are somewhat vague in their description of how to install the kit.

Once you get it hooked up correctly and give it a test you will love it. I recommend setting the 2-step at 1500rpm to start with and adjust from there.

 

[Hemi_Venom]

No problem. I totally understand the confusion that comes with this kit when you open it for the first time. Their instructions, if in the package at all, are somewhat vague in their description of how to install the kit.

Once you get it hooked up correctly and give it a test you will love it. I recommend setting the 2-step at 1500rpm to start with and adjust from there.

Yea I didn't get any instructions at all. It was a second hand kit, but the guy never installed it lol.

Thanks for the recommendation on RPM to start. I will give that a go once I'm up and running again! The truck is getting a turbo in a few weeks so I'm using the 2 step to build boost on the line at the track for now until I can afford a 4k stall torque converter. Can't wait to get this thing up and running!

 

[Fast69Mopar]

Yea I didn't get any instructions at all. It was a second hand kit, but the guy never installed it lol.

Thanks for the recommendation on RPM to start. I will give that a go once I'm up and running again! The truck is getting a turbo in a few weeks so I'm using the 2 step to build boost on the line at the track for now until I can afford a 4k stall torque converter. Can't wait to get this thing up and running!

The 2-step will definitely help build boost. The reason I recommended the 1500rpm starting point was because I assumed you had a stock converter for now. Once you get a new converter like a 4,000rpm stall, I would start out around 2800 to see how much boost you can build and still flash the converter to keep the engine RPM up. Do you have the RFE or the 8HP70 transmission?

If you have the 8HP70 you can pick up an Edge Racing 3400 for $599.00 if you send in your core.

 

[Hemi_Venom]

The 2-step will definitely help build boost. The reason I recommended the 1500rpm starting point was because I assumed you had a stock converter for now. Once you get a new converter like a 4,000rpm stall, I would start out around 2800 to see how much boost you can build and still flash the converter to keep the engine RPM up. Do you have the RFE or the 8HP70 transmission?

If you have the 8HP70 you can pick up an Edge Racing 3400 for $599.00 if you send in your core.

I have the 8HP70. I was curious about how high I could go with the 2step before it falls on its face on launch lol. I know the stock converter flashes around 1800rpm, but wonder if I can 2step past that.

I had contemplated going with the Edge 3400, but after a lot of reading, I believe the 4000 Circle D is my best option for boost. And from what I hear from people that have one, it drives like normal but flashes high when you need it to.

 

[Fast69Mopar]

I have the 8HP70. I was curious about how high I could go with the 2step before it falls on its face on launch lol. I know the stock converter flashes around 1800rpm, but wonder if I can 2step past that.

I had contemplated going with the Edge 3400, but after a lot of reading, I believe the 4000 Circle D is my best option for boost. And from what I hear from people that have one, it drives like normal but flashes high when you need it to.

With the stock converter on your truck, which has a 2200rpm stall speed, setting the 2-step to 1500-1700rpm will still allow the converter to flash stall to almost 2000rpm and start putting power to the ground. You should be able to set the 2-step as high as 2000rpm and still get it hooked up and moving before it bogs out of the hole. I have experienced the best results with the 2-step set to 1700rpm on a stock converter.

Now, once you get a new converter in with a higher stall speed you are going to need some sticky rubber out back or it will become a tire fryer. I have driven with both the Edge and Circle D torque converters. I really like the Circle D 4,000rpm converter. I have used it in two supercharged applications and their converter was awesome. The street manners were great. If you want to make boost on the 2-step the Circle D 4000 will work great.

 

[Hemi_Venom]

With the stock converter on your truck, which has a 2200rpm stall speed, setting the 2-step to 1500-1700rpm will still allow the converter to flash stall to almost 2000rpm and start putting power to the ground. You should be able to set the 2-step as high as 2000rpm and still get it hooked up and moving before it bogs out of the hole. I have experienced the best results with the 2-step set to 1700rpm on a stock converter.

Now, once you get a new converter in with a higher stall speed you are going to need some sticky rubber out back or it will become a tire fryer. I have driven with both the Edge and Circle D torque converters. I really like the Circle D 4,000rpm converter. I have used it in two supercharged applications and their converter was awesome. The street manners were great. If you want to make boost on the 2-step the Circle D 4000 will work great.

That's good to know! Thanks for that info. Helps a lot! I will toy with it at 1700 and see what it does.

As for tires, I'm using MT drag radials. They held up really well when I was on nitrous last year. I'm sure they should hold up!

Yea I think Circle D will be my best option. Costly, but I think it will be worth it!

 

[Wild one]

That's good to know! Thanks for that info. Helps a lot! I will toy with it at 1700 and see what it does.

As for tires, I'm using MT drag radials. They held up really well when I was on nitrous last year. I'm sure they should hold up!

Yea I think Circle D will be my best option. Costly, but I think it will be worth it!

I'm looking forward to seeing how your truck runs this year Shane.It was a monster on nitrous,if it'll run even close to your nitrous times with a stock convertor,it should be knocking on the 11's with a 4,000 convertor. When's it go over to Nick for the turbo install?

 

[Hemi_Venom]

I'm looking forward to seeing how your truck runs this year Shane.It was a monster on nitrous,if it'll run even close to your nitrous times with a stock convertor,it should be knocking on the 11's with a 4,000 convertor. When's it go over to Nick for the turbo install?

I can't wait either. I'm actually hoping to do better than it did on nitrous now that I have the 2step, **** injection and 6.1 intake. I think it has the potential to!

Nick just finished his last project and is waiting for the guy to come get it, but the guy is being quarantined at the moment. He said after that he just needs a week to rest as he has only been getting 3 hrs sleep lately. After that, it's time for the turbo!

 

[Fast69Mopar]

That's good to know! Thanks for that info. Helps a lot! I will toy with it at 1700 and see what it does.

As for tires, I'm using MT drag radials. They held up really well when I was on nitrous last year. I'm sure they should hold up!

Yea I think Circle D will be my best option. Costly, but I think it will be worth it!

I think you are going to be pleasantly surprised at how well the truck does with a new converter, especially with sticky tires and the 4,000rpm stall speed. I'll bet your 60' times drop anywhere from 0.15-0.24 with the new converter and leaving on the 2-step. Sticky rubber is going to be the key to getting the power to the pavement.

I forgot to post something earlier about RPM settings on the 2-step with the new converter. Once you get it installed and take it to the track, I would start at 2600-2700rpm. You can always adjust up or down depending on track conditions. I had great results with a few 2014-2015 QCSB's leaving at 2600rpm. The 2015 was on a 28x11.50x17 Hoosier Quick Time PRO and it could leave at 3300rpm on the 2-step. The 2015 picked up 0.23 seconds in the 60' with a Circle D 4000 and had nice street manners too.