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2011 Cummins delete or stock tuners

Discussion in 'Engine and Performance' started by JC Watson, Jan 24, 2018.

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  1. JC Watson

    JC Watson Junior Member

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    I have a ram 2500 6.7 automatic and have a choice to make . Banks tuner for 368 bucks or go the full route and get the Turbo back exhaust and EGR delete kit and a programmer that supports the full deletes ?
    All I am looking for is improved fuel economy and I tow a 10k 5th wheel some . Right now I am getting about 15 mpg around town and 17 or 18 on the road empty. I have a light foot and normally get better than average MPG . My diesel jeep did 30mpg. I would like to buy the complete setup from one seller.

    James C. Watson
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    MADDOG Cummins Driver Staff Member Super Moderator Supporting Member Military

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    First of all, it's Cummins...not "Cummings", JC. Try not to make our trucks sound like porn stars, OK? :D

    I went with a full delete with an Edge programmer/monitor for my 2017 CTD which included:

    • Edge CTS-2 Insight monitor with Cummins unlock
    • 13 – 17 EFI Live Dodge CSP4 tune package by PPEI / Kory Willis
    • 13 – 17 EFI Live Dodge transmission tuning
    • Cummins tuning switch CSP4
    • EGR valve and cooler removal with block off plate
    • Throttle valve delete
    • FloPro catalytic converter & DPF delete pipe, 4”
    • 4” – 6” black exhaust tip with rolled edge
    • Edge expandable EGT probe kit
    • Pillar pod mount for Edge CTS2y
    I got all this from one source, my local diesel repair and tuning shop.
    For your 2012 you won't need the unlock as your PCM is not encrypted.
    I'd recommend the transmission tune but you can pass on it if you like.
    With the Edge unit and 4 tunes, you'll want the CSP switch so you can switch to the appropriate tune on the fly.
    A full delete will get rid of the DPF system entirely so you do need the programmer.
    You can pass on the exhaust tip. My delete included the 4" delete pipes, which you need when the DPF system is removed.
    You can pass on the EGT probe kit but I highly recommend it for watching those temps when towing the 5'vr.
    I leave the Edge unit plugged in so I can use the real time, configurable, gauge package.

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    I know it's quite the list but it all works well together as a package. If you aren't having any problems with the DPF system (I had a terrible time with mine) then you can save some money and not do the delete. The difference in cash outlay on your part could be around $1200 to $1500 depending on shop rates and local pricing.

    Good luck withe the mods.
     
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    Thanks Maddog, I thought Edge stopped with the full delete programmer? I will remember that it is cummins ..lol I am looking at the H&S and will also look at the edge now. I am looking for a diesel shop here but they are hard to find. [fingerlakes NY]
     
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    Dear Maddog
    Thoroughbred Diesel has several packages and I think I will start with the H&S mini maxx tuner and the Race pipes '4' inch , it will shut off the EGR with out removing it to start with Eventually I will get the full kit to remove it completely, Unless you have a shop recommendation in my area that will do it all as you did.
     
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    The H&S is a good choice for your truck. They look kinda spendy compared to the Edge units for your truck. Edge still makes a full delete unit, i.e., the CTS2. Of course, you also need tunes to go with the programmer.

    I needed the unlock for my truck due to the PCM encryption and Edge had the best pricing on a programmer with a gauge package and the unlock integrated into a single unit.

    The EGR delete kit is simple to install and doesn't take too much effort.

    If you want to monitor EGT temps you'll need a probe installed and a programmer that will monitor the thermocouple signal.

    I am not up on shops in your area as I am wayyyyy out here in Orygun.
     
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    Where in Oregon My Bro in in Milwaukee right on the Willamette. I would prefer Bend myself
     
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    I'm on the West side of Portland out in the 'burbs.
     
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    Gerber knife country ..[Beaverton]
    I ordered the Tuner but H&S would not cover any defects or product failures so he discouraged me from buying that one and the guys in KY suggest the Race-me Jr which was the one I ordered Will keep you informed on how that one works, not many now do full deletes according to Thoroughbred diesel
     
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    Maddog I hope you take advantage of the coastal elk herd and hunt them. I do miss that.
     
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    I have read some stopped supporting full deletes which is why I went with the CTS product and the EFI Live tunes.

    I have some Roosevelt and Rocky Mountain elk meat in the freezer. I do take advantage, especially when I'm getting close to running out! LOL
     

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