2015 sport 4x4 Rancho QL or Bilsteins???

[Bctexascrazy1]

I know this is a frequently asked question but I hear all different opinions, but I got a 15 ram sport 4x4 with 3.92s and I was going to do a pro imp 6" with 35s just because I heard bout all the ball joint issues, but I like the factory 20" sport wheels with big tires, so I rather go with a good level kit and run some 325/60/20s on the factory wheels but don't want ballpoint issues, plus I can save a lot more money going that route. Any input would be helpful thank you!

 

[Bctexascrazy1]

Bump...

 

[mojoe]

Not quite sure what you are looking for, but I will try and help

From all I have read and experienced, both are great options. One has the ability to adjust height, the other is a static lift, but allows you to adjust dampening. They both prevent the ball joint from over-extending (same length as factory strut), and both are quality.

-The biggest pro to the Rancho is no need to break down your factory struts to swap springs. Easier for the driveway installer (in most cases).

-The biggest pro to the Bils is height adjustment.

I have used both in the past, and would go with the Ranchos for the dampening adjustment. My personal choice.

 

[sbuko213]

With the level you're still gonna need to do the ball joints. The '13s and up all have this problem. A lot of guys use the Mevotech or Zone UCAs to fix this. Some also use the 09-12 stock UCAs too. They're much beefier than the stock ones on the '13 and ups

 

[mojoe]

With the level you're still gonna need to do the ball joints. The '13s and up all have this problem. A lot of guys use the Mevotech or Zone UCAs to fix this. Some also use the 09-12 stock UCAs too. They're much beefier than the stock ones on the '13 and ups

You will not require new UCAs if you do not exceed the overall length of the factory strut. That's my understanding and experience.

 

[sbuko213]

You will not require new UCAs if you do not exceed the overall length of the factory strut. That's mine understanding and experience.

Better to be safe than sorry IMO

 

[SuthrnRAM]

Or just install the bilstein and see how they do you can always upgrade the ball joints and ucas later if ya need em.

 

[CLOUDL1GHT]

Bilstein goes up to 2.8" of lift where the Rancho QL are at 2.5". The difference is the Ranchos are fully assembled when ordered and they have adjustable dampening. That's what sold me on the Ranchos and I'm quite happy. AS for the balljoints the thing that destroys them are the spacer lifts. This causes over extension which pops it out. SO stay away from spacers and you will not have any issues.

 

[Bctexascrazy1]

What's the tallest tire u think I could get by with on my stock 20s?

 

[tripower]

What's the tallest tire u think I could get by with on my stock 20s?

Many people run 35's on that wheel. Generally, a 34.5"-35" tire will fit, but width can become an issue. Anything beyond 285 on the stock wheel may require a spacer depending on the actual profile of the tire you choose. To get the biggest possible tire on there, you have to talk about the exact tire brand/model in addition to the size. All are not created equal, even if the stats say they are.


No need for new UCAs with Ranchos or Bilsteins, don't waste your money.

 

[doz]

You will need spacers with the factory 20" wheels but you can run 35x12.5 tires.

Bilsteins have a slightly better ride quality than Rancho but the Rancho is nice for a driveway project. If you are having a shop install them either way, Id go with Bilsteins. If you are going to DIY and do not have a shop w/ a spring compressor, Id go for the Ranchos.

 

[chipmaker]

Too bad the OP has to wade thru so much *********! I have 35s on my factory 20s with no spacers. Bils are set @ 2.1". Also running factory ball joints after much off roading.

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[doz]

So much ********? You put on a tire that is not even a true 35x12.5x20 tire. Go throw on some Trail Grapplers or Toyo MTs and tell me it fits without spacers. Just because you purchased a tire that says 35x12.5x20 does not mean it really is a true size. MANY people have had 35" tires that did not fit without spacers who bought a more true to size tire. So its not "********" by any means.

And the ball joint issue is hit and miss. This is well known. I had spacers on my truck for about 6000 miles and never had an issue. Now I have the QLL system without an issue. Others drove 500 miles and had theirs pop.

It is a legitimate issue that people MAY encounter so people should be aware of the possibility of it popping.

 

[NYCruiser]

Too bad the OP has to wade thru so much *********! I have 35s on my factory 20s with no spacers. Bils are set @ 2.1". Also running factory ball joints after much off roading.

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Dude. You have a 2012, so you don't have the BJ issue. '13+ owners will be sorry if they listen to your advice.

 

[JCJ4290]

Alright, let's keep it professional. It's a problem that is different for each person so to call it anything other than helpful is ridiculous, chipmaker. Looks like it's a 13+ by the fogs and heads, so you're one of the rare lucky ones abd you're truck looks great.

Doz, you're so right that all manufacturers have different overall tire height and width, so that's just another great point that tire brand selection is just as critical. Keep in mind the forum is fo help, any and all information that people give from experience is crucial and greatly appreciated.

 

[twelver]

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What kind of tires are these? They look really nice!! Thanks

 

[Bctexascrazy1]

I think I'm going to just hold off and save and do a pro comp 6" cause I'm afraid I'm not gonna be happy with a level kit and want it bigger lol

 

[JCJ4290]

Twelve; They look like Cooper MXT tires and judging by previous posts I'd say 35x12.50x20.

Bctexascrazy; Isn't that how it always is? High is never high enough, lol.

 

[twelver]

Twelve; They look like Cooper MXT tires and judging by previous posts I'd say 35x12.50x20.

Thanks!!

 

[Cyborg2337]

Mastercraft Courser MXT 35x12.5. So made by Cooper. My local shop deals both and really like the Mastercraft. According to their site they measure 34.5", which actually appeals to me because I think these look great on a level which is my plan.