corneileous
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- 2018 Ram 1500 Limited 4X4
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Sorry, needed a break.You should have posted all that yesterday, but at this point I'm not arguing anymore, it's never going to end.
But no, it won’t ever end as long as people keep explicitly thinking there is no difference between the two ring and pinion gear sets that Ram offers for our trucks but whatever, no sense in beating a dead horse.
I’m not making no promises here but I’ll at least try to make my response as less-enticing for you to respond to.However you did just post a new point which I would like to respond to (once, lol):
I don't agree here either. These trucks are extremely competitive, and there is no room left on the table for any brand. They simply cannot afford to reduce their ratings, if anything, past history has shown them to be dishonest at times and increase them (or use non standard ratings), anything that might give them a leg up against their competitors. Thankfully now they all use the same "scale".
And if you want to go into "I suspect" territory and ignore payload to tow more than the ratings, the 3.21 guys can just do that too and say "lol, my engine has lots of power left, I'm towing that 11000 TT anyway". Ratings are ratings, we (me anyway) don't ignore them, nor should we recommend that as a viable approach to others.
I don’t know man. When it comes to the horsepower wars; yeah, we’ve been dealing with that ever since the turn of the new millennium. One year Ford will have the strongest diesel and then the next year it will be the Cummins… Next year after that, it might be the Duramax. It’s just one big circle that just continually keeps going around and around.
But when it comes to saying their half-tons can do a lot more than what they probably ought to, that award goes to Ford because who knows, maybe it’s the coil springs that Ram uses that might actually cause some of their limitations. I know they preach that their coil springs are progressive and that they’re are no different from leaf springs but I don’t know, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if having a coil spring suspension would be kind of a limitation. Maybe I’m wrong.
But 11,000 pounds on a halfton is a lot more believable than what Ford claims their properly equipped aluminum F150 can do which is over 13,000 pounds. I don’t buy that at all but whatever, I’m not gonna argue with anybody over it because just despite the possible fact that they’ve done it before, I don’t think ram is really all that concerned about that much competition when it comes to towing and payload until you start getting into the heavy duty trucks where the serious trailer towing is. And not only that, I could see ram saying they’re half tons tow less than what they actually can just to entice the buyer to take it home a three-quarter ton instead of a half ton.
All I know is just despite the fact of how unreliable the four corner air ride in the 1500s can be, it’s still a pretty sweet system because it won’t let your your truck squat under any normal load and not only that, the front is self-leveling also so that if you do hook up to a fairly heavy trailer and choose not to spend upwards of $500 on a weight distribution hitch for just doing short trips, at least the front air ride makes your truck a tiny bit safer by not letting the front of your truck poke up in the air so much. It’ll actually reduce air pressure so that you can get a lot more of that balance back between your your front and rear axle.
And before you say whatever it is you’re going to say regarding this if you choose to respond, keep in mind, when I pulled that mustang to the transmission shop, I didn’t use a weight distribution hitch. I had to take that car about 20 miles away, was running about 70, 75 miles an hour and it pulled that trailer really really nice. Didn’t feel unsafe at all.
But who knows, that could’ve been because of the fact that when I went and grab that trailer and noticed that it had 10 ply tires on it, I used the shops air hose to air the tires up to 80 psi before I hauled the car on it.
But like I said before, I’m not encouraging going over weight ratings but I’m also saying at the same time that in a lot of ways, I think what they set as payload ratings is rather light. I mean come on, some of that could be due to the P rated tires they put on these trucks as well so who knows. Maybe you’re right, maybe you’re not. Same goes for me but one thing I will say, if you are doing that kind of towing a lot then a half-ton isn’t for anybody.
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