Andrew09HEMI
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Id agree that most would be fine, but Im almost certain this MS-12633 has something to do with the oil and its state under heavy load/temp.
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I noticed this when I was running it and draining it.One thing I want to say: After viewing 2 VOA of the SRT 0W-40 as well as more then a handful of UOA it shows to be one of weakest 0W-40 oils.
I did this before my most recent M1 fill. I had some leftover Redline 10w-40 so I did a 4/3 combo with the T6/Redline. I liked that much better than the 5/2 I did the the M1/Redline.Some have began running T6 5W-40.
One thing I want to say: After viewing 2 VOA of the SRT 0W-40 as well as more then a handful of UOA it shows to be one of weakest 0W-40 oils. It's additive package is some what weak compared to RL/M1/Castrol. It only has a excess of Tri-Nuclear Moly! Which is a plus! It has shown to shear down to a 30wt really quick!
It's nothing special! Shell really needs to spend some more time with the additive package.
Within the Hellcat/SRT forums: Many of the owners have jumped ship and have started running M1/Castrol 0W-40. Some have began running T6 5W-40.
For the normal 6.4L driver the SRT 0W-40 will serve/protect the motor well. If I was working that motor most of the time? I believe there are better options out there @ a lower cost!
Looking at both VOA 7 months ago the PUP 5W-30 actually has a more robust additive package then the SRT 0W-40 . The SRT only has more Moly!
This is only my thoughts/opinions through my own research. The SRT 0W-40 is a decent oil for your 6.4L. I just believe there are more robust oils out there.
One thing I want to say: After viewing 2 VOA of the SRT 0W-40 as well as more then a handful of UOA it shows to be one of weakest 0W-40 oils. It's additive package is some what weak compared to RL/M1/Castrol. It only has a excess of Tri-Nuclear Moly! Which is a plus! It has shown to shear down to a 30wt really quick!
It's nothing special! Shell really needs to spend some more time with the additive package.
Within the Hellcat/SRT forums: Many of the owners have jumped ship and have started running M1/Castrol 0W-40. Some have began running T6 5W-40.
For the normal 6.4L driver the SRT 0W-40 will serve/protect the motor well. If I was working that motor most of the time? I believe there are better options out there @ a lower cost!
Looking at both VOA 7 months ago the PUP 5W-30 actually has a more robust additive package then the SRT 0W-40 . The SRT only has more Moly!
This is only my thoughts/opinions through my own research. The SRT 0W-40 is a decent oil for your 6.4L. I just believe there are more robust oils out there.
Trying to get educated here but what in your opinion makes PUP 0W-40 a weak additive pack?
I'm not sure about the details of the add pack myself, but I do remember that the oil shears down to a 30wt pretty easily, since it is already a very thin 40wt oil.
I don't like thin oil.
Looking for opinions on mixing 0w30 with 0w40 PUP...I read in this thread that the 0w40 breaks down to a 0w30 very quickly in it's life...Or is anyone using straight 0w30 full syn, and what have been the results. Reason I ask...Found CLEARANCE PRICED 0w30 full syn @ Autozone for $2.00 a qt...I don't mind experimenting with my next oil change...5 qts 0w40...2 qts 0w30...What do you think.........
Yeah, I got three oil analysis and aware of the shearing. That does not bother me. Nothing shows elevated wear because of it for me. If anything, it reinforces to me use of a good 5W-30 is not a issue.
Just wonder why the some of the SRT guys are moving away from it but I am sure they run their engines a bit harder especially if they track it.
So, I ask to use an oil that doesn't meet spec per FCA because it will save me $3/quart over the recommended brand. With three oil changes per year that is a savings of around $63. If I can't afford an additional $63/year then I have no business buying a $35K-$50K truck. The **** people come up with (excuses) and their reasoning boggles my mind sometimes.
Not everybody pockets are DEEP..Me I use 0w-40 redline syn.with 10-48 royal purple filters.My pockets are DEEP.laffinSo, I ask to use an oil that doesn't meet spec per FCA because it will save me $3/quart over the recommended brand. With three oil changes per year that is a savings of around $63. If I can't afford an additional $63/year then I have no business buying a $35K-$50K truck. The **** people come up with (excuses) and their reasoning boggles my mind sometimes.
So, I ask to use an oil that doesn't meet spec per FCA because it will save me $3/quart over the recommended brand. With three oil changes per year that is a savings of around $63. If I can't afford an additional $63/year then I have no business buying a $35K-$50K truck. The **** people come up with (excuses) and their reasoning boggles my mind sometimes.
So, I ask to use an oil that doesn't meet spec per FCA because it will save me $3/quart over the recommended brand. With three oil changes per year that is a savings of around $63. If I can't afford an additional $63/year then I have no business buying a $35K-$50K truck. The **** people come up with (excuses) and their reasoning boggles my mind sometimes.
Hey, all you fellas can use what you want to use and whatever make your dyck hard. I will use what if recommended by the factory so I have no issues if something goes south on the engine. It is also why the local Ram dealer does all my oil changes. All you you probably read the thread this week about the guy with condensation in his headlight. Ram said it was normal/within spec and did nothing for him. You really think if your engine has a problem that could have been caused but using a "non spec" oil they will just ignore that little nugget of info? probably not and you will be on here ******** about how FCA doesn't back their **** up.
Hey, all you fellas can use what you want to use and whatever make your dyck hard. I will use what if recommended by the factory so I have no issues if something goes south on the engine. It is also why the local Ram dealer does all my oil changes. All you you probably read the thread this week about the guy with condensation in his headlight. Ram said it was normal/within spec and did nothing for him. You really think if your engine has a problem that could have been caused but using a "non spec" oil they will just ignore that little nugget of info? probably not and you will be on here ******** about how FCA doesn't back their **** up.