Aftermarket big brake kit

[Blink330]

Is anyone aware if there is an aftermarket brake kit for our trucks? I personally think the brakes are lacking a bit and think Wilwood should make a kit for us!

 

[Buddy]

I am sure Baer does. Incredibly good name.

 

[doz]

Big Brake Kits

Nothing listed for the '13 and '14 but I dont think anything changed either from the '12. Not cheap.

 

[UNBROKEN]

The SSBC 14" front upgrade is very nice and IMHO cheap considering the prices for most kits....I thought it performed very well. Their 4 piston fixed front caliper will not clear SRT10 wheels. I found that out the hard way. Their 3 piston floater fits and works great though.
Wilwood and Baer don't make anything.
There's a huge kit from Rotora with 16" front rotors w/8 piston calipers and 15" rear rotors w/4 piston calipers. It's about 8 grand for both axles but is the best brake kit I've ever ran.

 

[Buddy]

Yea, Baer does make a kit for 1500 Ram, 15" front Extreme kit. Nothing for rear though.

 

[UNBROKEN]

That's new then. Do you have a link?

 

[Buddy]

I just hoped on Baer's website and clicked on Dodge trucks. Was looking at it last week.
I'll try to paste a link on this BB.....

Ok, can't figure how to set a link with this phone

 

[doz]

Front Extreme+ Big Brake System 2002-2014 Dodge Ram 4141022 - Baer Brakes

And it better perform for that kind of money.

 

[BlownGP]

Front Extreme+ Big Brake System 2002-2014 Dodge Ram 4141022 - Baer Brakes

And it better perform for that kind of money.

Way better than Rotora!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice

 

[Talon_66]

Gorgeous!

 

[UNBROKEN]

Way better than Rotora!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice

And you know this how? How many of them have you personally owned?
I've owned both brands as well as 3 SSBC kits.

I had Baer on a Ford F150 as well as a Stillen kit at one time.
2 SSBC kits on my Ram as well as SSBC's 8 piston kit on my F250
Then the front and rear Rotora kits on my Ram.

The fact is they all perform very well. The SSBC kit uses a 2 piece 14" rotor with either 3 or 4 piston calipers.
The Baer for a ram uses a 2 piece 15" rotor and 6 piston caliper.
The Rotors front kit is a 2 piece 16" rotor with an 8 piston caliper.

All of the fixed calipers mount the same. All 3 kits use an aluminum hat with similar rotor construction.
At the end of the day...clamping force and leverage are what matters. I don't think there would be a huge difference between a 15"/6 piston and 16"/8 piston kit but physics says the larger kit should win.

To say one is "way better" than the other is patently false.
I'm glad to see Baer finally make a kit though. More options is better. I've seen some Wilwood "kits' on other trucks but they were pieced together from individual components. Wilwood told me they had no plans to make a bolt on kit. Hopefully that will change too.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

I'm thinking he meant the price was way better, not the performance.

But on the subject of performamce, bigger isn't necessarily better. If a smaller setup can lock the wheels up and dissapate all the heat you can throw at it, all a bigger setup is going to do is add more rotational and unsprung weight.

 

[UNBROKEN]

The pricing is actually within a few hundred bucks between the front Rotora kit and front Baer kit.

As far as the weight...the Rotora kit I used weighed less than the stock stuff we removed by just a hair...about a pound or so IIRC. All these new kits are ABS compatible so locking up the tires probably isn't gonna happen on pavement but they all make one hell of a difference over stock brakes.
For the money...I'd say the SSBC 3 piston kit is the best thing going. Probably 95% of the performance for less than 1/2 the cost of either Baer or Rotora.

 

[BULL55]

Sure would look nice! But WOW what a price! thanks for the info.

 

[UNBROKEN]

These are probably the most ridiculous brakes ever made. Boss brakes made these for the guy that owns MBRP a few years ago. It's hard to see but it's an 18" wave rotor with a 12 piston fixed caliper. IIRC they were close to 20 grand. lol

 

[BlownGP]

And you know this how? How many of them have you personally owned?
I've owned both brands as well as 3 SSBC kits.

I had Baer on a Ford F150 as well as a Stillen kit at one time.
2 SSBC kits on my Ram as well as SSBC's 8 piston kit on my F250
Then the front and rear Rotora kits on my Ram.

The fact is they all perform very well. The SSBC kit uses a 2 piece 14" rotor with either 3 or 4 piston calipers.
The Baer for a ram uses a 2 piece 15" rotor and 6 piston caliper.
The Rotors front kit is a 2 piece 16" rotor with an 8 piston caliper.

All of the fixed calipers mount the same. All 3 kits use an aluminum hat with similar rotor construction.
At the end of the day...clamping force and leverage are what matters. I don't think there would be a huge difference between a 15"/6 piston and 16"/8 piston kit but physics says the larger kit should win.

To say one is "way better" than the other is patently false.
I'm glad to see Baer finally make a kit though. More options is better. I've seen some Wilwood "kits' on other trucks but they were pieced together from individual components. Wilwood told me they had no plans to make a bolt on kit. Hopefully that will change too.

hahaha.. Knew I would get you... hahaah
Calm down NANCY!!!!
Yes, I forgot you know everything.

I have ran Baer 13" brakes in the past, but there were a older style using LT1 calipers. I run C5 calipers now so I could fit my 16" slicks, although I'm thinking about quitting the drag racing. Just go for a street look and get some CTS-V brakes.

Like you said, SSBC, Wilwood, etc are pretty much the same type of components. You would be hard pressed to noticed a difference unless you did some side by side comparisons.

 

[BlownGP]

These are probably the most ridiculous brakes ever made. Boss brakes made these for the guy that owns MBRP a few years ago. It's hard to see but it's an 18" wave rotor with a 12 piston fixed caliper. IIRC they were close to 20 grand. lol

Never too overkill for brakes, but damn!!!!! lol

 

[UNBROKEN]

If you would stop posting unsubstantiated comments I wouldn't have to smack you around so much. lol

If you think Baer is "way better" then explain WHY.
Anything less is just a random, stupid, useless comment.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

These are probably the most ridiculous brakes ever made. Boss brakes made these for the guy that owns MBRP a few years ago. It's hard to see but it's an 18" wave rotor with a 12 piston fixed caliper. IIRC they were close to 20 grand. lol

This is just dumb if you ask me.

On my model mustang, 4 piston calipers are as big as you need up front and some.bigger rotors out back. Any bigger is a waste. And that's only a couple thousand pounds less than our trucks. And these are road race mustangs that are slamming the brakes alllllll the time.

I mean honestly, I can't imagine you EVER had issues with your brakes overheating on your truck unbroken.

Any bigger is just a waste of money and mass. You need more tire to justify more brake.

It's like having a car that can blow the tires off at any given speed, and yet saying that you need more power. No, you don't, you need more grip.

Just my $0.02

 

[BlownGP]

If you would stop posting unsubstantiated comments I wouldn't have to smack you around so much. lol

If you think Baer is "way better" then explain WHY.
Anything less is just a random, stupid, useless comment.

Nahh, I was thinking you meant $8000 PER axle for the Rotora's.

But you can get the Baer cheaper..That makes them way BETTER priced
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