Can we all agree on this??

[novelmike]

Measuring our lifts has many variables going from the ground to the fender. The biggest one being tire size. But there’s also tire wear, air pressure, etc.... can we all agree to start doing our measurements from center of hub to top of fender?
I feel that will eliminate A LOT of variables. Also I’m not positive, but I think that’s the way many off-road shock manufacturers prefer measurements to be taken. So why not us too??

 

[Krein]

Most of us do measure that way.

 

[22hemi13]

Just thinking here. Even from hub tire size, pressure and wear will still affect the measurement. I mean the tire is round lol.

 

[BOWERSFJ]

Just thinking here. Even from hub tire size, pressure and wear will still affect the measurement. I mean the tire is round lol.

What ? No it doesn’t ... You could put 31’s on it, or 35’s on it ... The hub center to fender measurement will not change


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[22hemi13]

What ? No it doesn’t ... You could put 31’s on it, or 35’s on it ... The hub center to fender measurement will not change


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Well you know what Mr. I had one cup of coffee. So my brain wasn’t ready yet I try to stay off forums till 2 cups lol

 

[billyw]

So, if I had cave man rock round tires, measured from ground to fenders, then add a lift, and measured again, I should get a specific difference between the two measurements. But if I started out with whatever size/pressure rubber tires and jump through the same hoops, you're saying I'll get different results?

 

[Gary2]

I have yet to see it listed on this forum that way. I mentioned it once before because their is far less variables doing COH to fender but never heard diddly in response. I know on the Tacoma Forum they all measure COH to Fender and it gives you more valuable info especially when dealing with real coilovers where you have threads on the shock instead of a couple snap ring grooves. Makes a lot more sense to me if you are only asking for suspension numbers.

 

[novelmike]

Most of us do measure that way.

I’m going to have to disagree. Its rarely used.

 

[novelmike]

If you measure from center of hub to the fender, it doesn’t matter if you have caveman round rock tires or these rubber tires that I have. The number won’t change.
That’s why it’s a good way to measure that way.
So Tom has a 40”, Mark has a 38”, and Travis has a 41” and all three have 2.8 Bilsteins on their truck. How can that be if the trucks are otherwise stock (no heavy bumpers, winch, etc)? Tires! Tire size vary by manufacturers too.

 

[novelmike]

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[Krein]

What i'm saying is, those of us that have a lifted truck and have had it for sometime do. Alot of the lets say new people to the lifted truck scene start out thinking that you measure from the ground up only because thats what was told to them or just inexperienced. (no disrespect to them) but as the grand master of lifted trucks on this forum @JB1 ,he and others including myself when someone new lifts there truck we always ask for measurements from the center of wheel to fender.

And to your asking of Tom, Mark and Travis alot of other variables can come into play like i believe outdoors man package sit one higher than say a tradesman or express. Also is the area where they are all parked completley flat any kind of angle or dip can cause one side of the truck to flex causing the other side to dip/ or push tire into wheel well.

by the the way you should have used the names Tom, **** and Harry

 

[JB1]

The proper way is to measure from the center to the fender, as previously stated, even the lift instructions say to do this before/after lifting. However, it’s not as accurate as you may think because your guessing where that center is and for guys with 10” wide wheels or 12’s and 14’s with wide tires it really presents a challenge to get an accurate center measurement. True it may only be off 1/4” or 1/2” but when you only have a small level that percentage of error can be 10% or higher. As @Krein said it’s easier just to tell people to measure from the ground up and that’s close enough for anything we do around here.

 

[Quick_Shifter]

The proper way is to measure from the center to the fender, as previously stated, even the lift instructions say to do this before/after lifting. However, it’s not as accurate as you may think because your guessing where that center is and for guys with 10” wide wheels or 12’s and 14’s with wide tires it really presents a challenge to get an accurate center measurement. True it may only be off 1/4” or 1/2” but when you only have a small level that percentage of error can be 10% or higher. As @Krein said it’s easier just to tell people to measure from the ground up and that’s close enough for anything we do around here.

I couldn’t agree more, I’ve seen people use tape measures and it’s down right scary. I’ve also read some pretty wild measurements on this forum that are impossible but the posters will claim they are engineers and know what they are doing. it’s scary enough having guys put the tape measure on the ground at the center of the tire

 

[ram1500rsm]

What ?

 

[T_Unit114]

I measured from the ground up. Hub to fender makes way more sense. I can lower my truck at least an inch by letting air out of my balloons.

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