Difference between 09-12 and 13-17

[556Hunter]

Sorry if this is a repost, I did a search and came up empty.

I am looking at getting a new bumper for my 2011 1500. All of the options I have been looking at only fit the 13-18 trucks and not my 09-12. What is the difference? Is it just the mounting interface that I could do some chopping and welding to adjust?

Thanks.

 

[huntergreen]

Far as I know, the biggest differences are the 8 speed transmission, electronic steering and the radios. The 8 speed became available sometime in the 13 model year. Not sure about the steering or radio/computer. An air suspension became available in 2016 ? Doesn't seem to work well in cold weather.

 

[tidefan1967]

The foglights are different; on the newer trucks they're vertical and were horizontal on the 2009-12 trucks.

 

[Graygoose]

yup, fogs are biggest difference.


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[Arth]

Sorry if this is a repost, I did a search and came up empty.

I am looking at getting a new bumper for my 2011 1500. All of the options I have been looking at only fit the 13-18 trucks and not my 09-12. What is the difference? Is it just the mounting interface that I could do some chopping and welding to adjust?

Thanks.

Fog lights are different along with the grill. The 09-12 have a flat bottom to the grill, the 13-18 have a cut in each corner of the lower portion.

 

[556Hunter]

I never noticed those cutouts on the grill. To put a bumper for the 2013+ on a 2011 would it be as easy as putting in a 2013 grill with it or are all of the mounting locations going to be different?

 

[vanila540i6]

Funny. ..I have a 2012..flat bottom grill but vertical fog lights....hmmmm

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[Wahrsuul]

math was never my strong point, but I'm gonna say 4 and 5 respectively.

Yeah, the vertical fogs came in 11 or 12 as I recall. Personally I like my horizontal ones.

 

[Arth]

Funny. ..I have a 2012..flat bottom grill but vertical fog lights....hmmmm

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math was never my strong point, but I'm gonna say 4 and 5 respectively.

Yeah, the vertical fogs came in 11 or 12 as I recall. Personally I like my horizontal ones.

The vertical fogs didn't come in until 2013. If someone has vertical fogs before that then maybe the bumper was replaced with a newer one and that might answer the OP's question.

Wouldn't mind seeing pics of your truck to verify.

 

[Jimmy07]

Sorry if this is a repost, I did a search and came up empty.

I am looking at getting a new bumper for my 2011 1500. All of the options I have been looking at only fit the 13-18 trucks and not my 09-12. What is the difference? Is it just the mounting interface that I could do some chopping and welding to adjust?

Thanks.

Like others said, 09-12 have flat bottom grill, 13+ have the bottom grill corners clipped, so that changes the geometry of how the upper bumper cover “sweeps up” into the grill. I guess the question should be, can a 13+ bumper AND grill be installed on a 09-12?
And, of course, the fogs would need to be changed if you have them.

 

[Skyjockey]

What about headlights??

I have 2012 with the 2 in 1 bulb (dual?) in chrome. I want to get a factory set of black headlights. I have part numbers for a set that show 2013-18 but people say they fit all years?? Is this because the 2013 was the first year the black lights became available?

 

[Jimmy07]

What about headlights??

I have 2012 with the 2 in 1 bulb (dual?) in chrome. I want to get a factory set of black headlights. I have part numbers for a set that show 2013-18 but people say they fit all years?? Is this because the 2013 was the first year the black lights became available?

All headlights between 09-18 for 1500’s and HD’s (2010+) are the same as far as shape and mounting. I’m just not sure about wiring between 09-12 & 13-18.

 

[vanila540i6]

The vertical fogs didn't come in until 2013. If someone has vertical fogs before that then maybe the bumper was replaced with a newer one and that might answer the OP's question.

Wouldn't mind seeing pics of your truck to verify.

Guess I lied....lol...walked out to take a picture. ..fogs are horizontal.

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[556Hunter]

I just tore my factory lights apart and painted them and resealed them. Pretty sure I have done that on every truck I have owned since I was 16. I will try to get some pics...

I think I am just going to order the Go Rhino BR5 bumper and a 13+ grill. I’v got a plasma touch, welder, and plenty of breacher tape; I’m sure I can figure out a way to make it fit.

 

[Wahrsuul]

The vertical fogs didn't come in until 2013. If someone has vertical fogs before that then maybe the bumper was replaced with a newer one and that might answer the OP's question.

Wouldn't mind seeing pics of your truck to verify.

Yep, you're correct. Thought I'd seen the '12 models with them at a dealership when I was looking for my first Ram. Must have been early '13 models. Wasn't in the market for brand new at the time so I didn't look too hard.

 

[brianw0048]

What about headlights??

I have 2012 with the 2 in 1 bulb (dual?) in chrome. I want to get a factory set of black headlights. I have part numbers for a set that show 2013-18 but people say they fit all years?? Is this because the 2013 was the first year the black lights became available?

Headlights are all the same as far as mounting and fitment but the 13+ take a different harness.

Where are you located and do you want to sell the duals (if they're in good shape)? I'm looking for a set to retrofit.

 

[Skyjockey]

Headlights are all the same as far as mounting and fitment but the 13+ take a different harness.

Where are you located and do you want to sell the duals (if they're in good shape)? I'm looking for a set to retrofit.

I'm in MA, I would have to have something else to put in first obviously so it could be a while

 

[Solid State]

From what I've researched its doable to swap the bumper and grill from a 13+ on to a 9-12' model. I think the only issue is the lower grill clips for the grill. The 13 grill is a little taller and sits further down into the bumper, than on the earlier gen 4. Otherwise i think the mounting points are al ln the same. Mind you we are talking about like models and not trying to go from a slt to a sport bumper.

 

[Lastgoodshyguy]

The front steel bumper with out fog lights fit 09-19. The projector headlights only have a different wire harness

 

[OnSale]

Wiring is exactly the same.

Headlight differences:
09-12: Low trim models come with Dual lights, higher trim come with Quads.
13+ Low trim get Quads, High trim get 13+ OEM Projectors

09-12 Quads and 13+ quads are the same with wiring, the only difference is inside between the low beam area and turn signal the one years set has a bigger defined area where there are 3 "dashes" or "lines" for design purposes only.

Any 09-12 Ram you can plug Quad headlights into. That means if yours originally came with Dual lights ( 1 bulb shared for high and low beam) then you can just plug in and bolt up the quads.

Any 09-18 Ram you can install the 13+ OEM Projectors into them. They bolt right up, but you need a plug adapter harness that runs from some supplies for $68 and others charge up to $140.

Anymore questions about the headlights just lemme know



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