Do these lifters look Legit? Real Mopar? What do the Hemi Gods think?

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It appears you are doing everything you can do to assure the repair is completed correctly.

Hopefully this repair will last many years. Good Luck!

Stellantis finally did come up with a total fix for any further HEMI cam failures from here on out.........

If Stellantis can't, or won't, fix it, just replace it with a Hurricane.

It's cheaper than admitting you have a problem......

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dont this this engine will last very long guess we shall see probably will see em blow up around 80-100k.
 
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Completed everything today. Pumped about 2 quarts of oil under pressure while hand turning. Buttoned everything up, topped off the oil and coolant. Double checked the wiring - everything is plugged in.

Cracks but will not start.
 

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Completed everything today. Pumped about 2 quarts of oil under pressure while hand turning. Buttoned everything up, topped off the oil and coolant. Double checked the wiring - everything is plugged in.

Cracks but will not start.
probably something stupid/not plugged in scan for codes also make sure 10x all the push rods went into the correct holes and they are clicked in happens every single time someone does a camshaft replacement
 
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I am sure the rods are in the proper holes. They all lined up properly with the rockers and I used a little mirror to make sure they were all in the rocker cups. They better be, this whole engine is back together and I certainly do not want to have to tear it down again to the valve covers!

I will check for codes and listen for the fuel pump. The fuel rail was basically empty - how long should it take to get gas up the the injectors? I turned the kewy on and off a half dozen times leaving it On for 5 or 6 seconds.
 

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I am sure the rods are in the proper holes. They all lined up properly with the rockers and I used a little mirror to make sure they were all in the rocker cups. They better be, this whole engine is back together and I certainly do not want to have to tear it down again to the valve covers!

I will check for codes and listen for the fuel pump. The fuel rail was basically empty - how long should it take to get gas up the the injectors? I turned the kewy on and off a half dozen times leaving it On for 5 or 6 seconds.
It shouldn take much to fire up did you put oil in the cylinders or anything? reason i ask is some people do and put alot and it fouls out the plugs/hard to start. to test for fuel you can shoot little starting fluid or whatever you want down the intake see if it fires.
 
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I very lightly wiped the cylinders to prevent rust whil the motorwas open.

At some poing, someone installed the fuel pump relay bypass, basically another relay outside of the TIPM. Another known problem with these trucks. I don't know what moron engineer put that relay on the TIPM circuit board.

Anyway, While looking at this mod again I am not measuring 12 Volts at the relay plug - I think there is a broken wire in there that got bumped or pulled while working on it. I will look further tomorrow b ut I think that is the issue.
 

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I very lightly wiped the cylinders to prevent rust whil the motorwas open.

At some poing, someone installed the fuel pump relay bypass, basically another relay outside of the TIPM. Another known problem with these trucks. I don't know what moron engineer put that relay on the TIPM circuit board.

Anyway, While looking at this mod again I am not measuring 12 Volts at the relay plug - I think there is a broken wire in there that got bumped or pulled while working on it. I will look further tomorrow b ut I think that is the issue.
if you ever wanted to go back to stock wiring and forget the bypass it is very easy to fix the TIPM few vids on it the relay costs $3 just have to re solder it onto the board I do this fix when i do cams on these trucks.
 

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Good bit of skepticism is healthy nowadays. Counterfeit parts appear to be common on Ebay and Amazon. Family relative spent $150+ on a set of ignition coils for his F150, and in two months all kinds of drivability and misfire codes. OEM coils fixed it. Packaging looked authentic, but items were not OEM.

Pine Hollow Diagnostics just did a video on a Silverado that had thousands of dollars worth of parts cannon repairs, fuel pumps (five!), ignition coils, and new injectors, and other stuff only to find that the "new" installed counterfeit injectors, packaged as a GM Delco part, was the cause of the problem.

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2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 119738 miles.
 
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Well, like another posts indicates, I am stumped.
No backfires.
No popping up the intake.
No codes.
Verified fuel pump is coming on.
Verified 12 volts at the coils.
Verified all 8 injectors are working with a TopDon ODBC tool.
I can't believe I missed that many pushrodes. I could see maybe 1 or 2 but it should run and give misfire codes.

Going to try starter fluid.
Then I guess I will do a compression test. If the cam is off by a tooth I would think the compression would be low, but I would also expect backfires.

I need to rule everything out before I take it apart again.
 

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Well, like another posts indicates, I am stumped.
No backfires.
No popping up the intake.
No codes.
Verified fuel pump is coming on.
Verified 12 volts at the coils.
Verified all 8 injectors are working with a TopDon ODBC tool.
I can't believe I missed that many pushrodes. I could see maybe 1 or 2 but it should run and give misfire codes.

Going to try starter fluid.
Then I guess I will do a compression test. If the cam is off by a tooth I would think the compression would be low, but I would also expect backfires.

I need to rule everything out before I take it apart again.

Have you checked for spark at the spark plugs?

If you have a pressure gauge, check the fuel pressure just to make sure.


If there is fuel, spark and compression inside the cylinder, the the cylinder will fire.
 
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No fuel pressure gauge, and I just tried starting fluid. No go.
I am not sure how to check for spart with these coil packs. I guess pull the pack and two plugs, ground the threaded part of the plug and turn it over? I could check compression on that cylinder while I am at it.
 

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No fuel pressure gauge, and I just tried starting fluid. No go.
I am not sure how to check for spart with these coil packs. I guess pull the pack and two plugs, ground the threaded part of the plug and turn it over? I could check compression on that cylinder while I am at it.

If you tried starting fluid and it didn't kick over at all, that narrows it down to spark or compression.


Checking for spark you can get a helper and try the old-school method. Be careful. I'd recommend that you use an extra spark plug, if you have one laying around somewhere. That way you don't have to remove one from the engine and risk anything falling into the hole.

 

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Just asking yall's opinion, but wasn't it genuine Mopar parts that failed the 1st time? I had a 2016 RAM 1500 that had lifter failure at approx. 126K miles. This vehicle was maintained perfectly.
 
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