Got a good coat of wax on the ram

[Alexpaul09]

Cleaned the ram up tonight and put a coat of The Chemical Guys instant wax on! Man this stuff works wonders! Not bad looking for almost 120k miles

 

[Pull Ya]

Looks great!!!! Next time you might consider a good sealant. Wax will protect about 3-4 weeks, whereas a good sealant will protect about 6 months.
Jay

 

[Alexpaul09]

Looks great!!!! Next time you might consider a good sealant. Wax will protect about 3-4 weeks, whereas a good sealant will protect about 6 months.
Jay

What do you recommend?

 

[Pull Ya]

Wolfgang 3.0
https://www.autopia-carcare.com/wolfgang-deep-gloss-paint-sealant.html#.XDAUlFVKj3g
Jay

 

[Gero]

Jetseal is also very good too. You could try a ceramic sealer but I'm not brave enough to try that.

 

[Burla]

Zaino z5pro with zfx, and use ZAIO as a base. Still the gold standard imo. I know there are new things that are better or last longer that are costly, but these is every day sealants and waxes. Doing a test to see how long it will last against wax, just started- stay tuned. I have no idea how long anything will last, and of course environment is everything, right now there is a layer of ice/frost every day. If anyone is interested, leave me a pm and I will update it. Other wise check with syn thread, or better yet do your own test.

Did different panels on the drivers side, my favorite sealant versus my favorite was, on top of KAIO. Wont know anything for a couple months. Anyhow, had a detailing business for 4 years, only used wax on black and white vehicles, was mutes the paint, makes it look real nice and wet. Zaino or most sealants are more of a mirror shine. I have many sealants still left over from my business, wolfgang is one of them, no very durable. These were the products I tested 1/1/2019. I probably wil post it up in syn thread, process was only wash and aio over the entire passenger side, clear seal x2 on front fender, x5pro/x2pro x2 1 coat each on the door, just aio on irst half of bed, 845x2 back of the bed. No clay no polish, didn't want that to skew the result of beading.

 

[mboymopar]

Looks great!

 

[Pull Ya]

Collinite 845 is not a pure carnuba wax, it is a synthetic, and should do well in your test IMHO. Classified as a wax it usually protects longer than other "waxes". I use it as a topper on the Wolfgang 3.0. Your opinion of Wolfgang 3.0 does not seem to be shared by a large number of detailers on autopia. I would be interested in the results of your test.
Jay

 

[Pull Ya]

Burla,
Zaino makes great product and I used to use them exclusively for years. My only problem with Zaino now is that Sal hasn't made any changes in the product line in a long long time, that I have found. With all the "new" stuff that has come out I just started to experiment a little and finally got away from his products. Plus the fact that I called him one time to ask a question and he implied that I was stupid for even asking him the question--I guess that was the straw that broke the camels back. I completely agree his products do a great job---I guess I just moved on to the "new" popular stuff.
Jay

 

[Burla]

I have to look, I have wolfgang deep gloss sealant still looks exactly like that cover, product is yellow, maybe it was a formula change since then. I take your word for it I know you are truthful. I haven't detailed for business way over ten years ago. I used almost everything available back then, stuck with menzrna polishes and zaino or colinite white wax. I wasn't married to it, I like souveran on the real nice sport cars I'd get. Detailing isn't so much about product as it is process. I can cut from a 6 to a 1 and it will bead for a year or two with no wax. Most of that business is just soccer mom's and suv's. Probably near 80% of my clients were women.

Chemical guys is good stuff, as a matter of fact almost every boutique is just rebranded chemical guys that was the old warner chemical company products that still sell the same cheap bulk chemicals as they do today. I was detailing in the 90's when the reps would sell that stuff so cheap you wouldn't believe. 100 or so bucks and you would have two boxes of gallon waxes and compounds and spray detalers washes fragrances. Everything was like 7 to 12 bucks. Chemical guys took warner over of the cheap quick car wash places and into the enthusiast, and now they have really had some nice offerings. I think it was Chemical guys who figured out you could make more money selling to jonny q then to selling cheap stuff in bulk. When I say cheap, I mean nothing about quality, it is good stuff, it was just made for car washes and professional detailers, but most enthusiast would prefer something else. That was back then, I'm sure their new stuff is way more geared toward enthusiast. Anyhow, we never wanted a product to last 6 months, because we would go out of business, hehe? Can't have a usual customer come twice a year for a detail, and that is what warner chemical did for us. Great shine that lasted a decent 60 days.

 

[Burla]

Burla,
Zaino makes great product and I used to use them exclusively for years. My only problem with Zaino now is that Sal hasn't made any changes in the product line in a long long time, that I have found. With all the "new" stuff that has come out I just started to experiment a little and finally got away from his products. Plus the fact that I called him one time to ask a question and he implied that I was stupid for even asking him the question--I guess that was the straw that broke the camels back. I completely agree his products do a great job---I guess I just moved on to the "new" popular stuff.
Jay

Yeah, Sal is the dumbest mother ****** on the planet, he refused to open his business and sell at a lower margin to expand his business. he gave rise to all of these other sealants, he could have slapped the industry down at that time. Timing is everything, he missed the boat.

 

[Burla]

that fool doesn't even sell on ebay or amazon, lol.

 

[Burla]

Collinite 845 is not a pure carnuba wax, it is a synthetic,
Jay

Are you sure? I know there are laws regarding solvent level and sealant or wax, and this is a high solvent product, which usually means wax. I think the solvent level is way to high to be a synthetic and being sold in California. I would be interested in knowing more. It isn't too late, maybe I will add some collinite white wax and add it to the test. I have a spot where I can put some white wax near the fuel door. I'll do that tomorrow, only 3 days into the test, I was just having fun with it. Trust me I rarely wash my truck, lol. I don't care if I never wash another car.

 

[Pull Ya]

This is from a description on the Collinite web site-


2. What’s the difference between the auto waxes; No. 845 Insulator Wax, No. 476s Super Double Coat and the No. 915 Marque D’ Elegance?

All 3 last step waxes serve the same function: to provide a high gloss carnauba shine and lasting protection. All 3 contain copious amounts of wax-both rare Brazilian carnauba and premium synthetic polymers. However, their degree of durability, ease of use, and warmth of shine vary. Think of it this way;

1. No.476s – most durable protection/weather defense. Most elbow grease required during application.

2. No. 915- 2nd most durable and slightly easier than the 476s to apply/remove. No. 915 lends our warmest shine to dark tones like navy and black due to its highest concentration of rare carnauba.

3. No. 845- easiest of the 3 to apply/remove with slightly less durability than the No. 915.


Jay

 

[Burla]

I have both the other ones 915 is my white wax and I have double coat. as well, I will add those with a 3 day head start. Honestly I feel anything that gets 2 or 3 mos is great. And I think wax protects better so long as you keep it clean. I wonder what the wax content has to be to use 45% solvent. I know sealant are limited to like 12% or something like that.

thanks, here I thought the 845 was the most durable.

 

[Pull Ya]

I just think it's the easiest to use. I had nightmares with the 915. I'd never use it again, but I think it was operator error----LOL I get 6 months out of 845 but my truck is well taken care of and it's parked in the garage when not in use. If your looking for a new "boutique" line check out the Polish Angel products. I use the High Gloss for shows and special occasions and have never found anything with the gloss it gives. It is pretty pricey to use very often IMHO
Jay

 

[Pull Ya]

To OP---sorry we got a little carried away taking about different waxes and sealant and sort of hijacked your thread. There is a lot of great information in the "Detail" section of the forum is you want some good reading.
Jay

 

[Burla]

True, but he kind of asked for advice, yeah we went a lil far. He has some good choices if he is looking for longevity after he finishes his bottle.

The truck looks beautiful, don't know if it's more the wax or the stance, but gotta love the 2500's.

 

[Pull Ya]

Let me know about your test results. It should be interesting
Thanks
Jay

 

[blackbetty14]

First get a stripper detergent, foam canon (pressure washer) the truck and use a 2 bucket method to get it good and clean, then clay it.

This is what I do:
Chemical guys jet seal or Adams sealant (1 time a year in the spring/summer)
Chemical guys top coat (every 3-4 months)
Monthly washes get Adams butter wax or H20 gloss for monthly wear protection and helps the top coat last longer which keeps the sealant on.

My truck is just over 1 year old (my possession 2018 laramie CC) and I sealed when i got it new. Going on its 2nd winter and doesn't even have a swirl mark on it. My area uses a TON of salt on the roads as well. Dont forget to powerwash the underside of the truck weekly in the winter to get the salt off and crap to help with rust.