I'd for one would love to have the old 426 and put aluminum heads, roller cam, fuel injection, super chargers and or turbos and have all the gears today's cars have and compare, but yes today's technology doesn't make it apples and apples. I still got to live in the greatest times for cars in my youth and in my opinion!
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98RAM5.9
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and my point is they know that most people are going to associate it with everything you said, but not realize that they arent "the same" in a sense. thats all my point was. it was clever on their part as most any hobby is made up of mainly "casual" fans. when it comes to cars and trucks im not a expert and admit that. yes, stock for stock a newer hemi will take a older one if you go by 1/4 times from then and now, but im not sure thats all engine performance. tires for one have gotten a lot better since then and id have to think that MAYBE the older engine has more power POTENTIAL. either way i didnt mean to take this as far as its gone, but that always happens lol.
I also remember many of the old 50s and 60s cars running the streets in my area as a young teen.There will always be something very special about those great American cars back then.Nowdays it seems most cars are cut from the same "cookie cutter" and imo lack what it takes to be truly American iron.
No hard feelings from me either. I'm just a guy that has heard people dis Mopar for the past 46 years and I take up for them. I didn't mean to sound bad if I did.
No harm done! That is what a forum is for.For the enjoyment of the cars and the history of the automobile in its many forms.
Yes, I'm trying to realize the love for old American hot rod days are gone but I had so much fun with them and my memories of them will never die. I'd do it all again if I could!
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none from me either. thats the problem with text, we dont know what the actual emotion is and most times (me included sometimes) its taken as if its in a offensive manner. im definitely not here to diss mopar! if i wanted a new truck id take a serious look at a new ram and have heard about and been around mopars all my life. my dad is a mopar guy lol
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there are times where i wish i lived back then
My kids grew up hearing my stories and they say the same! LOL
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“I can tell you as a Dodge person my entire life, if something happens to a Dodge, the whole world hears about it. If it happens to any other brand no one hears about it! Always been that way.” – 2012RAM1500RT
No truer words have ever been spoken.
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Ive always been a big Chevy and somewhat Ford guy and of course a Mopar fan.All three since the big quality issues of the 1970s especially have made many folks critical of domestics.Some families have never owned anything but foreign makes.The differences I see is since the imports haveseen some good dependability experiences that when they do mess up it is like no one mostly cares.But if a domestic vehicle even has an alternator failure then the car is just cut down to crap.It is the american carmakers history of screwups that always comes back to haunt them...and those of us that like american cars.
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True Hemi, semi hemi, don't matter to me, it's a Hemi, I think my first one was a 54 Des. than a 345? I am foggy on the size in a dodge 700 HD grain truck with a zillion miles on it. also a 58 1/2 ton with a small hemi, and **** poor clutch, had that up to when I retired 10yrs ago, than a few in the 1970's with small blks and one big blk.
Has one BB hemi for a bit, also a hot rodded 340 , that was great.
The newer ,on my 4 th, never had one of them opened as they all jut work right. no hot rodding, they are work trucks. My 14 sport should be the last one , 8sp, 3.9gears, 75KM ( Canada)
the picture is from the dealer when I bought it new, much the same, step boards, roll top, some trim.
Has one BB hemi for a bit, also a hot rodded 340 , that was great.
The newer ,on my 4 th, never had one of them opened as they all jut work right. no hot rodding, they are work trucks. My 14 sport should be the last one , 8sp, 3.9gears, 75KM ( Canada)
the picture is from the dealer when I bought it new, much the same, step boards, roll top, some trim.
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You are right and I understand that but I always told people if my brother makes a product and you make the same product and it is better I am still going to buy from my brother. I think of American's as my brothers and sisters. That's just the way I am, I can't help it!
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brand loyalty is something i cant get behind and is exactly what i was getting at with chrysler using the hemi badge in late model vehicles. its a hemi as long as dodge calls it that, but again im not bashing, just how i see it. i ride/drive whatever i want. lets face it, most major brands in any segments, whether it be cars or motorcycles, all make a pretty good product these days. if i like it, i want it, regardless of branding. if i bought a new ram, it'd be because i felt it was the best truck for me. my dad is a mopar loyalist, but has owned other makes like many have as well. since he is, there is a SLIGHT mystique to mopar for me, but i still would buy something else if i felt it was better. its nice talking with you all, maybe we will more in the future. im signing off on this one lol
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This is simply not true to the degree stated. I've owned a 2.7 with the 10spd. It does well but feels that way not due to the power it produces but the lighter weight of the truck. It just feels more "nimble". In all reality the difference between the 2.7/3.5 and the hemi is 3/4 second at most pending configuration as always. The 2.7 and 3.5 are nearly identical 1/4 mile times. If Ram needs to step it up then building an aluminum truck would put it right there with Ford however I hate the aluminum body. It's loud especially when it rains and in the winter where I live the traction sucks due to the weight difference. This is also one of the reasons most don't think about when it comes to towing, Ford has a much lighter truck allowing them to accommodate a heavier payload hence upping the tow capacity.
The new powerboost is in an entirely different category and even that is still less than a second quicker than the hemi with a price tag that is 20k more. I've driven one of those off of my lot for a couple weeks as well and they are a nightmare when it comes to ride quality, the engine dropping in and out is very frustrating, feels as though it's shifting all the time. Sorry, got side tracked there.
Yes, and a second is a blink of an eye and I still have the sound of a V-8 and no turbo!
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"Yes, and a second is a blink of an eye and I still have the sound of a V-8 and no turbo!"
This is the ONLY regret I have since I supercharged mine. I lost the Hemi Rumble. BUT on the plus side I do have an amazing amount of get up and go now. Hence my saying " Hemis are fast, Supercharged Hemis are INSANE fast."
This is the ONLY regret I have since I supercharged mine. I lost the Hemi Rumble. BUT on the plus side I do have an amazing amount of get up and go now. Hence my saying " Hemis are fast, Supercharged Hemis are INSANE fast."
Small engines are a race between two computers with aluminum/ plastic vehicles.
Which is why the younger gen has a liking for them.If they could just use a smartphone to race with they'd do that too lol.
Back in the day we could understand why a shoebox Nova with a smallblock could mostly outrun a bigger more powerful tho heavier car.But we liked the heavy beasts anyway.And also the small lighter cars with lots of hp per lb. of weight. Also nowdays some folks get their rocks off seeing a real small lite car outrun someone.But we all knew it wasn't that big of a deal even years ago to outperform a behemouth! We still loved the beasts!
Which is why the younger gen has a liking for them.If they could just use a smartphone to race with they'd do that too lol.
Back in the day we could understand why a shoebox Nova with a smallblock could mostly outrun a bigger more powerful tho heavier car.But we liked the heavy beasts anyway.And also the small lighter cars with lots of hp per lb. of weight. Also nowdays some folks get their rocks off seeing a real small lite car outrun someone.But we all knew it wasn't that big of a deal even years ago to outperform a behemouth! We still loved the beasts!
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I can tell you that I have owned 3 Chev trucks with the 5.3 engine and the 5.7 hemi is by far quicker than the Chev's ... Sorry I have no 1/4 numbers ... I'm on my third RAM as well and all the trucks both Chev and Ram had the same configuration, 4 dr crew cab with short box ..
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Respectfully disagree. We live in the golden age of automobiles and you no longer have to choose. My truck will walk many a 'performance car' from the nostalgia era. Sure, you won't be as quick as an equally modern sports car, but being fastest and being fast enough to be fun are different things. I rather enjoy my modernized Lil Red Express, even if it doesn't have the pipes.
