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Hello, I now have a 2022 Ram 2500 Tradesman and getting ready to pull my travel trailer through the mountains. With the dial shifter these trucks have, how does one downshift the transmission to use engine braking when going down hills?
 

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Hello, I now have a 2022 Ram 2500 Tradesman and getting ready to pull my travel trailer through the mountains. With the dial shifter these trucks have, how does one downshift the transmission to use engine braking when going down hills?
Your avatar reads 2012 Cummins. You mentioned you have a 2022 2500 Tradesman. What motor are you running in the 2500?
 

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Hello, I now have a 2022 Ram 2500 Tradesman and getting ready to pull my travel trailer through the mountains. With the dial shifter these trucks have, how does one downshift the transmission to use engine braking when going down hills?
On the right bottom of your steering wheel are the controls for your ERS (Electronic Range Select) with +/- buttons. After you are in gear, hit the (-) button to engage your ERS. Then from there you can push either the + or - button to go up and down in gear range. You can only go up to the highest gear, and if you push the + button again it will disengage your ERS and you have to start over. And it's not 'engine braking' unless you have the Cummins; it just your transmission gearing up and down.
 

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On the right bottom of your steering wheel are the controls for your ERS (Electronic Range Select) with +/- buttons. After you are in gear, hit the (-) button to engage your ERS. Then from there you can push either the + or - button to go up and down in gear range. You can only go up to the highest gear, and if you push the + button again it will disengage your ERS and you have to start over. And it's not 'engine braking' unless you have the Cummins; it just your transmission gearing up and down.
It IS engine braking...it's not exhaust braking. The terms get conflated often enough that I find myself using them interchangeably when they really shouldn't be.

To continue on with what you're saying though - I believe (and I may be mistaken) that if forcing a downshift would result in RPMs that the computer determines would be BEYOND the redline of the engine, the shift won't happen.

Quite honestly, though, I would rather just use the brakes and have my trailer brakes adjusted properly to assist the truck brakes. Brakes are cheap, the possibility of over-revving an engine and having a piston or two decide to NOPE right through the hood isn't.
 

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I suggest starting in tow haul mode and let the truck work as designed, first before I over road any features built into the truck.
^This.
My 2014 Laramie with 5.7L/3.21 rear/8-speed will downshift and engine-brake
even before I typically use the brake pedal and always makes a bigger difference
than me trying to manually downshift with ERS.

And that's either with or without TOW-HAUL mode. Tow-Haul does make everything
a bit more "aggressive" though... and fun. :Big Laugh:
 

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^This.
My 2014 Laramie with 5.7L/3.21 rear/8-speed will downshift and engine-brake
even before I typically use the brake pedal and always makes a bigger difference
than me trying to manually downshift with ERS.

And that's either with or without TOW-HAUL mode. Tow-Haul does make everything
a bit more "aggressive" though... and fun. :Big Laugh:
Yes. On my 2022 2500 6.4L, when desceding, I have in tow/haul and just set the cruise control to the desired speed. It will not over rev the engine. I I do try to manually down shift it will refuse to do it if the result would be an over rev. The key with the gas engine is to start the descent at a slow speed so its able to downshift as needed. For example I once went down a 12% grade pulling my travel trailer where the speed limit was 30 MPH. Set the cruise on 30 and had it been in a straight line I could have made it down the descent without touching the brakes. But there were some tight turns where I wanted to go even slower so used the brakes. A other time I was going downnan 11% grade and started out at 55. But trying to go 55, it quickly go to the point where it couldn't downshift any more so it just let the speed increase. Had to use the brakes then. Best to start slow. Speeding up is easy down hill but slowing down is hard and your brakes can heat up fast. Final example: was going down Wolf Creek Pass west bound in Colorado. I thought I was ot using my brakes that much. But to be sure, when I got to a pull out, I stopped to check. The brake disks on the truck we so hot I burned my fingers on them and the trailer brakes were hot too. That's when I started using my start out slow method.
 

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Yes. On my 2022 2500 6.4L, when desceding, I have in tow/haul and just set the cruise control to the desired speed. It will not over rev the engine. I I do try to manually down shift it will refuse to do it if the result would be an over rev. The key with the gas engine is to start the descent at a slow speed so its able to downshift as needed. For example I once went down a 12% grade pulling my travel trailer where the speed limit was 30 MPH. Set the cruise on 30 and had it been in a straight line I could have made it down the descent without touching the brakes. But there were some tight turns where I wanted to go even slower so used the brakes. A other time I was going downnan 11% grade and started out at 55. But trying to go 55, it quickly go to the point where it couldn't downshift any more so it just let the speed increase. Had to use the brakes then. Best to start slow. Speeding up is easy down hill but slowing down is hard and your brakes can heat up fast. Final example: was going down Wolf Creek Pass west bound in Colorado. I thought I was ot using my brakes that much. But to be sure, when I got to a pull out, I stopped to check. The brake disks on the truck we so hot I burned my fingers on them and the trailer brakes were hot too. That's when I started using my start out slow method.

And in retrospect I should have mentioned that I have never towed with my Ram, this was simply what I have noticed while bopping around, mostly unloaded too.
I occasionally have a bed full of firewood/mulch/topsoil but that's about it.
 

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Just put it in tow haul lightly apply brakes till it downshifts then let of brake need more repeat. Works good
 

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when desceding, I have in tow/haul and just set the cruise control to the desired speed.
^^^ this exactly
before people start nay-saying about using cruise control, that tells the truck what speed you want to travel and it will downshift accordingly to get to the target speed.
 

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^^^ this exactly
before people start nay-saying about using cruise control, that tells the truck what speed you want to travel and it will downshift accordingly to get to the target speed.
Exactly. That's why diesel guys have the 'auto' setting on the exhaust brake. We can set our speed at, say, 55, and when going down a hill, if we start to exceed that, it'll engage the exhaust brake to help keep things slower. If the cruise isn't set, it won't do anything until you set a speed or get on the brakes. The 'full' setting will engage the exhaust brake any time you aren't on the throttle.
 

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It IS engine braking...it's not exhaust braking. The terms get conflated often enough that I find myself using them interchangeably when they really shouldn't be.

To continue on with what you're saying though - I believe (and I may be mistaken) that if forcing a downshift would result in RPMs that the computer determines would be BEYOND the redline of the engine, the shift won't happen.

Quite honestly, though, I would rather just use the brakes and have my trailer brakes adjusted properly to assist the truck brakes. Brakes are cheap, the possibility of over-revving an engine and having a piston or two decide to NOPE right through the hood isn't.
You are correct. I use the terms interchangeably sometimes myself.
 

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my truck will auto brake going down a hill, if not too steep,
The local river hills I use a little brake to get to 80-90Km from 110, but that's a steep grade.
Your 2500 if a Cummins, I can't help on that.
If you have the dial, then gear selection is on the steering wheel.

Some people read the book, maybe you don't have one? I did in mine.
 
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