If they ever built something like this,they'd sell every one they could build

[Wild one]

Ford raised MSRP on the Maverick and still saw a 40% year over year increase in sales. Sure, 120k-ish units isn't touching F-150 numbers but that's a lot of small trucks for CAFE purposes to support Raptor sales and make money while you do it instead of buying credits from Tesla.

I wonder what Ram or Jeep has seen a 40% increase...

I think once the tuners crack the computor on the new 6 bangers,you'll see some massive gains,but so far that's still a pipe dream yet.

 

[NCRaineman]

I think once the tuners crack the computor on the new 6 bangers,you'll see some massive gains,but so far that's still a pipe dream yet.

Massive gains, accompanied by a massive loss of reliability. Ford's turbo engines are known as ecoBOOM for a reason. Supposedly there's a 1000hp version of the Hurricane out there... it might be good for two or three passes down the quarter mile before needing a rebuild.

 

[Wild one]

Massive gains, accompanied by a massive loss of reliability. Ford's turbo engines are known as ecoBOOM for a reason. Supposedly there's a 1000hp version of the Hurricane out there... it might be good for two or three passes down the quarter mile before needing a rebuild.

New Hurricane I-6 Now Available as HurriCrate Crate Engines Capable of 1,000 HP​

Your wish that the Hurricane I-6 would be offered as a stupendously powerful crate engine is granted.
Justin BannerWriterNov 01, 2022

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If you happen to remember reading our deep dive into the twin-turbo Hurricane I-6 engine and how it seriously upgrades the formerly V-8-only Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer, you'll probably remember our prediction about a potential crate motor version:
"Setting aside fever dreams of modified examples delivering 1,000 hp, you can bet Stellantis' own performance gurus—SRT engineers—are going to try their darndest to squeeze every last pony from these new sixes. We certainly can't wait to see it." Well, it didn't take long for Stellantis' Direct Connection factory upgrade program to make the "HurriCrate I-6" available as a crate offering. Well, actually, three crate engines—including one "1,000-plus-hp" version.

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Count us in for getting on this hype, as the horsepower wars at Dodge will continue, albeit with two fewer cylinders and using turbos instead of superchargers. The new HurriCrate was announced at the 2022 SEMA Show in Las Vegas, and it joins other plug-and-play Direct Connection crate engines such as the Drag Pak Hemi; the 1,500 Hemi Crate by DSR Performance; and the new iron block Hellephants as potential powerhouses for your next project car.
Mopar gets cute with the Hurricane crate motor names, which will come in themed "Cat 1," "Cat 3," and "Cat X" (that's "X," not the Roman numeral for 10) outputs, the lowest being a 420 hp package—same as the non-high-output Hurricane 510 in the Wagoneers. The Cat 3 comes in at 550 hp, and Cat X is set to hit "1,000 plus hp." This maximum-power engine will also be seen in the next Drag Pak car that's coming soon.

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These engines—along with TorqueFlite 8 crate transmissions that will bolt up to them—are new production and won't be siphoned from current production slated for other roadgoing Stellantis vehicles. The only sad-trombone issue with early HurriCrates is that their OE production level engine controllers come locked, just like they are on road-legal cars. Don't fret, though, these are only intended to get these out and into the field as a Direct Connection engine controller for the HurriCrates that allows for custom tuning will be coming later. As always, there are also aftermarket solutions, too, it's just that Stellantis would rather you use theirs.


You'll also see the Direct Connection HurriCrate engines and TorqueFlite 8 crate transmissions used at Roadkill Nights during the Grudge Match. Tim Kuniskis, Dodge Brand CEO, hinted that there is more than 1,000 hp in these engines and signified that the Grudge Match will only hint at what these engines will be capable of. Batten down the hatches, V-8 fans, because hurricanes are coming for your next project car's engine bay.

 

[Wild one]

Massive gains, accompanied by a massive loss of reliability. Ford's turbo engines are known as ecoBOOM for a reason. Supposedly there's a 1000hp version of the Hurricane out there... it might be good for two or three passes down the quarter mile before needing a rebuild.

That's yet to be seen .If they take a page out of Toyota's old 2JZ book,it might handle alot more then you think

 

[Docwagon1776]

I think once the tuners crack the computor on the new 6 bangers,you'll see some massive gains,but so far that's still a pipe dream yet.

I meant unit sales year over year, not HP, but that's an interesting thought as well.

I wonder how much meat is left on the bone with a more efficient/bigger intercooler and an ethanol tune. I'm certainly claiming no expertise here. I just wonder what the bottleneck will be and if it's going to be shedding heat for the HO.

 

[tidefan1967]

I think once the tuners crack the computor on the new 6 bangers,you'll see some massive gains,but so far that's still a pipe dream yet.

Burger Motorsports has the JB4 Piggyback module available. They claim up to 104 extra RWHP. Sounds like a bargain at $529

 

[HEMIMANN]

Sure - if you take it to 12,000 rpm.

I guess the drag race pickup truck market soldiers on, but I don't see how in this day and age of gouge coin.

Gimme a GD tow truck that doesn't suck and won't burn up killing itself.

 

[NCRaineman]

That's yet to be seen .If they take a page out of Toyota's old 2JZ book,it might handle alot more then you think

BMW tried it first. Now we get to see the Italian version.

Funny none of them can match the durability of a Toyota product that went out of production a quarter century ago.

I suppose I don't have to tell you that the words "Italian" and "reliable" don't belong in the same sentence.

 

[tidefan1967]

Sure - if you take it to 12,000 rpm.

I guess the drag race pickup truck market soldiers on, but I don't see how in this day and age of gouge coin.

Gimme a GD tow truck that doesn't suck and won't burn up killing itself.

12K RPM? We’re not talking about sport bikes here. Hell the turbo sixes make their peak torque at a much lower RPM than any naturally aspirated engine. While I agree that the reliability of the Hurricane leaves alot to be desired right now it has power for days compared to either the 5.7 or the truck version of the 6.4. The 6.4 needs a redesign anyway. Again I wouldn’t even go so far to call the 1500 a tow vehicle. Your 2500 is better suited to that.

 

[Sherman Bird]

It isn't just the intake, the trucks get a different cam.

Yup! The cam makes more singular difference than exhaust or intake bolt ons. Together, they all make an awesome transformation.

 

[Lsujker]

12K RPM? We’re not talking about sport bikes here. Hell the turbo sixes make their peak torque at a much lower RPM than any naturally aspirated engine. While I agree that the reliability of the Hurricane leaves alot to be desired right now it has power for days compared to either the 5.7 or the truck version of the 6.4. The 6.4 needs a redesign anyway. Again I wouldn’t even go so far to call the 1500 a tow vehicle. Your 2500 is better suited to that.

Hopefully they don’t touch the 6.4. The horsepower and eco wars are getting silly. Was not long ago 200hp 2500 was acceptable. Would love to see a reliability war. Like a big NA straight 8.

 

[tidefan1967]

Hopefully they don’t touch the 6.4. The horsepower and eco wars are getting silly. Was not long ago 200hp 2500 was acceptable. Would love to see a reliability war. Like a big NA straight 8.

It definitely needs some updates. I noticed that they dropped the horsepower down from 410 to 405. I certainly hope that’s not a gasoline particulate filter although it would be even less if that was the case.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Hopefully they don’t touch the 6.4. The horsepower and eco wars are getting silly. Was not long ago 200hp 2500 was acceptable. Would love to see a reliability war. Like a big NA straight 8.

Detuned motors for longevity pretty much only exist in straight trucks and the like now, things for commercial use where gas still makes sense over diesel but the original buyer cares about longevity and fuel costs.

At least in the US, HP sells. I seriously doubt we see an end to the HP wars, but I'm willing to be wrong.

 

[Sherman Bird]

Hopefully they don’t touch the 6.4. The horsepower and eco wars are getting silly. Was not long ago 200hp 2500 was acceptable. Would love to see a reliability war. Like a big NA straight 8.

And a flat-head to boot!

 

[Lsujker]

And a flat-head to boot!

Ha. I guess we take it back to whatever gen we think was best. I bet the flathead was before your time. Dont lie.

 

[Sherman Bird]

Ha. I guess we take it back to whatever gen we think was best. I bet the flathead was before your time. Dont lie.

Nope. Rambler/AMC had them until 1965. I was 10

 

[Dan Topp]

I’ve made numerous stops from 170+ and I wouldn’t be here if it was in a truck!

 

[Lsujker]

Nope. Rambler/AMC had them until 1965. I was 10

Thanks for the education! Learn something new everyday.

 

[Wild one]

Thanks for the education! Learn something new everyday.

Navarro Indy​

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Barney Navarro selected the 199 AMC engine to power a race car for the Indianapolis 500. Navarro had previously applied turbocharging to a variety of engines that led to the 199 engine's Indy-related application "based on a Stone-Age-strong Nash 6."[10]

This engine had not been used in an IndyCar. However, Navarro selected it "due both to its strong bottom end and thick cylinder walls."[11] For the first Indy attempt, Navarro designed a fuel-injection system, a unique head, and a single turbo to achieve 550 hp (410 kW; 558 PS) at 6000 rpm. This was with the stock block featuring seven main bearings and large journal sizes, while the second block was drilled for four-bolt caps.[12] Successive engines incorporated double turbochargers to produce 640–700 hp (477–522 kW; 649–710 PS).[13][14]

Navarro fielded a 1964 Watson car with the AMC 199 engine for three years at the Indianapolis 500.[15] However, the #50 Navarro-Rambler never qualified due to problems with drivers and with the suspension of the cars.[11][16] The car was also entered at the 1971 IndyCar "Rafaela 300" season opener in Argentina. This was the car's fourth actual race start, and it began at 19 on the starting grid. Dave Strickland drove it for 45 laps.[17] This car was then driven by Les Scott in practice for the 1971 Indy 500 race.[18] The following year, another attempt to qualify was with Leon Sirois as the driver.[18]

An auction was held on 14 July 2005, to clear the remaining contents of the Navarro Engineering shop in Los Angeles.[19] A private collector purchased a complete Navarro 700 hp (522 kW; 710 PS) 199 cu in (3.3 L) engine for $15,000.[19]

 

[2023RAM1500ds]

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they need to bring back the srt10 ram!