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[MSExpress]

I think there would be a market for a 30/10.5/17 slick, to bad they don't see it. 28's look to small on a truck even from a visual stand point.

Big slicks are a thing of the past unless your a bracket racer. Put a 315/60/15 radial on it. **** slicks

 

[MSExpress]

To add to above thought: the truck isn't going to need a 10.5 tire to get down the track. If you need a 30" slick, try a 30x9. Saves 10lbs per tire

 

[Hemi450hp]

Big slicks are a thing of the past unless your a bracket racer. Put a 315/60/15 radial on it. **** slicks

You think that 315 would be OK on a 10" wheel, or would a 295/65 be better? I have a more aggressive converter on the way, and I think I'm going to need a taller tire to keep from running out of gear on the big end. I'm leaning towards the 2 sizes above to replace the 28" Hoosiers.

 

[MSExpress]

You think that 315 would be OK on a 10" wheel, or would a 295/65 be better? I have a more aggressive converter on the way, and I think I'm going to need a taller tire to keep from running out of gear on the big end. I'm leaning towards the 2 sizes above to replace the 28" Hoosiers.

MT says to use an 8.5"-11" wide wheel for the 315 (part #3763R). However in the real world people are putting them on 12-13" wheels. You can run it on the 10" wheel, but I do not think you'd utilize the entire width of the tread. A 295 (part # 3762R) would sit more square on the wheel. But still most likely not utilize the entire tread width. Either would get the job done, and only 1 lb diff between the 2

I understand the want for a 30" tire under a truck. That with your 4.56 r&p, I'm guessing you'll most likely need every bit of it on n2o....without knowing what rpm the motor pulls

 

[Hemi450hp]

What's Matt's truck ran ET/MPH is what a stock 5.0 runs with sticky tires. Mine 2012 dyno'd at 394hp with nothing but a Ford Racing tune. With headers, intake and a good tune they usually make close to 440 at the wheel on a 3700 lb car. And Houston is pretty well known for its street scene (ie, lot's of modded Mustangs).

So certainly not taking away from Matt's accomplishments or your truck. Just said I wouldn't go picking on too many new 5.0's.

I have beat a few 5.0's in this truck, but I'm not going out of my way to call them out...haha.

I have seen plenty running anywhere from mid 10's to high 11's.

 

[Lethal Hemi]

I've beat a few 5.0 in my cammed 3rd gen 5.7L. Only video I got from behind but it u can see I'm ahead from a 50 roll. So I know matt and beat some 5.0 but like matt said many many fast one especially on the streets of houston. Ops Mexico lol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_nGFe84dflc

 

[MSExpress]

What's Matt's truck ran ET/MPH is what a stock 5.0 runs with sticky tires. Mine 2012 dyno'd at 394hp with nothing but a Ford Racing tune. With headers, intake and a good tune they usually make close to 440 at the wheel on a 3700 lb car. And Houston is pretty well known for its street scene (ie, lot's of modded Mustangs).

So certainly not taking away from Matt's accomplishments or your truck. Just said I wouldn't go picking on too many new 5.0's.

Unless you have an S10 with a V8 swap, trucks and cars should never be in the same sentence IMHO. Diff worlds between the 2!

 

[Hemi450hp]

MT says to use an 8.5"-11" wide wheel for the 315 (part #3763R). However in the real world people are putting them on 12-13" wheels. You can run it on the 10" wheel, but I do not think you'd utilize the entire width of the tread. A 295 (part # 3762R) would sit more square on the wheel. But still most likely not utilize the entire tread width. Either would get the job done, and only 1 lb diff between the 2

That's what I was worried about. You cant fit anything wider than a 10" wheel inside the fender, so that's what I'm limited to right now. I think the 295 would be a better option.

 

[MSExpress]

Here is a 295 on a 10.25 inch wide wheel. Weld RTS has weird widths, thus the 10.25 number. Also, it's a 295/55 not a 295/65

That's my old car. The tires were 3 years old, car weighed 3550 race weight, went 11.54 with a 1.55 60' first time out. The 295 will work.

 

[Hemi450hp]

Nice. I think the 295/65 is going to be the right size for me. I actually have a set of the 275/60/15 Street Radial Pros here that I intended to use, but they only measure 27" and are going to be too short for my current setup. I will be putting them up for sale if you know anyone interested. Never even took the stickers off the tires.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

What's Matt's truck ran ET/MPH is what a stock 5.0 runs with sticky tires. Mine 2012 dyno'd at 394hp with nothing but a Ford Racing tune. With headers, intake and a good tune they usually make close to 440 at the wheel on a 3700 lb car. And Houston is pretty well known for its street scene (ie, lot's of modded Mustangs).

So certainly not taking away from Matt's accomplishments or your truck. Just said I wouldn't go picking on too many new 5.0's.

1) I don't put much stock in dyno numbers anymore. Plain and simple, they can be fudged any way you want. I had a 2008 Bullit that dyno'd at 407 at the wheels, but ran in the 10s at 3800lbs with me in it. The reason why is the dyno wasn't setup with the correct inputs for my car. I'd also be interested to see if it was a Dynojet or another brand that it was done on.

2) We already established that the Ram is half the price of the Mustang in this case. That leaves you at least 10k in mods to catch up to the Mustang before the dollar figures are even close.

3) I'm well aware of Houston's car scene. I've beaten quite a few Mustangs, Camaros, Challengers, etc. at RPR though. They weren't all new models, and I can't say what those guys are running, but my guess is they weren't heavily modded. Besides, if I really want to run them I have a 10 second Vette I can throw on the trailer and take out.

Point is that for what these trucks are; mostly stock vehicles that can pull twice their own weight, they are fast, and Matt has the fastest NA one right now. We all recognize that these are trucks and are in a separate class than muscle cars, but these trucks are actually competing against some of these cars and winning.

 

[MSExpress]

1) I don't put much stock in dyno numbers anymore. Plain and simple, they can be fudged any way you want. I had a 2008 Bullit that dyno'd at 407 at the wheels, but ran in the 10s at 3800lbs with me in it

Unicorn?!? Wallace Racing says at 3800lbs it would take 568hp to run 10.99. Figure 20% loss on the most strict dyno you'd need 455whp to go in the 10's. Maybe 407 n/a with a 100 shot on it. I'm not hating, I'm saying the math doesn't work

...I have a 10 second Vette I can throw on the trailer and take out.

When are 10 second cars trailer cars?

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Unicorn?!? Wallace Racing says at 3800lbs it would take 568hp to run 10.99. Figure 20% loss on the most strict dyno you'd need 455whp to go in the 10's. Maybe 407 n/a with a 100 shot on it. I'm not hating, I'm saying the math doesn't work

That calculator is likely showing rear wheel horsepower, not flywheel horsepower. The car was supercharged running 17lbs boost on a built 4.6L motor running e85 and some really low IATs. No other power adders.

The reality of the situation is that the car was probably making close to 600 at the wheels, but a few numbers weren't entered properly on the dyno so it showed a much, much lower number.

When are 10 second cars trailer cars?

Well it's a road racing car that just happens to be that fast... It's not the most pleasant vehicle to drive on the street. I'd rather trailer it to anything more than about half an hour away.

 

[greychevy]

Dude my last truck.was a tuned & ******* regular cab 15 powerstroke,so this truck feels like a HUGE **** to me power wise,sorry you feel otherwise about yours,maybe you'll get to drive your daddys truck some day huh.

You have a lot to learn my friend. Just do yourself a favor, don't post here, and stick to your built stang and tuned powerstroke...every time you post you sound like a f*cking idiot.

 

[Shambo]

Very Nice

 

[CMil527]

congrats... nice job!

 

[poweredbyhemi]

Why do you even own a RAM? All you do is ***** and moan about it. Do yourself a favor and go buy a Ford.

Hey i like the way the ram drives so i bought one.It is my 1st new ram & hemi so hey i guess my expectations were a little high.However it is a decent truck & a joy to drive,but knowing it'll probably never be fast is a bit of a buzz kill.

 

[poweredbyhemi]

So you had a 'built' Mustang but decided to buy a truck instead and make it go fast. But you could easily afford to build another car and keep both. But you didn't...because the truck should run 11's with bolt-on's as well. Yep, that makes sense. There is more bs going on here then a 17 year old with a new Honda.

Stop trolling when you have nothing useful to add.

Dude i wish i were 17 & i did not buy this truck to race,but i hadn't expected it to be a total **** either.

 

[drittal]

Dynos are a great tool for tuning, but horrible for the **** measuring everybody likes to do with their "results". Simple fact of the matter is no 2 dyno are the same and there are huge differences between some types. From my understanding a load cell dyno typically reads about 200hp lowe. Case in point, 2 of my buddies dynod their race cars at a car show. The one at 308, the other 358. Based on weights and ET they should be around 500-550. Same dyno same day tested a Hellcat at 537hp.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Dynos are a great tool for tuning, but horrible for the **** measuring everybody likes to do with their "results". Simple fact of the matter is no 2 dyno are the same and there are huge differences between some types. From my understanding a load cell dyno typically reads about 200hp lowe. Case in point, 2 of my buddies dynod their race cars at a car show. The one at 308, the other 358. Based on weights and ET they should be around 500-550. Same dyno same day tested a Hellcat at 537hp.

Dyno was probably set up incorrectly.

Load cell dynos will generally read much more accurate numbers when set up correctly.