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There are a few that have gone as far as over 100,000 miles on the same oil after a new filter every 25k miles and sending their oil in for testing.

Wow! That's a feat I'm too weak-kneed to try, but that's quite a testimony.

Now, say you run standard dino oil and a Chrysler filter. And say the truck gets no more than 4k miles on it in a year. Would y'all feel OK doing annual oil changes in that case?
 

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Wow! That's a feat I'm too weak-kneed to try, but that's quite a testimony.

Now, say you run standard dino oil and a Chrysler filter. And say the truck gets no more than 4k miles on it in a year. Would y'all feel OK doing annual oil changes in that case?

Doing annual oil changes with dino and Chrysler? No, I would not. That oil filter is not made for that kind of length of time, either is the oil. Now, if you switched, that is a whole new story... Running Amsoil EA0 Filter or even maybe a Royal Purple with the best filter you can find, I would feel more comfortable changing oil only once a year.
 

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At what mileage did you guys switch to amsoil?

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I switched at around 60,000. I have customers that have switched on their first oil change, 15,000 miles, 35,000 miles, and up... we put it in my fiances car at 95,000 miles, my buddies 05 Ram at 140,000 miles and another at 185,000 miles.
 

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I'm about 4000 mi and have been debating am soil for my first change

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Go by the owners manual - not the dealer.

Dealers are trying to make profit (can't blame them there - we all do) - but their tactics to do so are misguided (I can blame them for that).

Bottom line - follow the manual. The dealer didn't design your truck - Chrysler did, and coincidentally, they also wrote the manual. :)
And established the warranty.
 

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HELLO I have 166,000 miles on my 5.9 Cummins, the last two oil changes I had the oil sampled by BLACKSTONE LABORATORIES The first oil change I went 7,500 miles. I didn't have to add any oil, BLACKSTONE suggested I go 9,000 miles because everything was great with the oil readings. So the following oil change was at 11,300 miles, and added one quart of oil. BLACKSTONE suggested I go longer on my oil changes. I use MOBIL 1 5/40 TURBO DIESEL MOTOR OIL. So I come to a 10,000 mile oil change, I know I can go longer with no problems. But 10 to 12 thousand mile oil changes are not uncommon, use a good oil and just check the level every week


SUS Viscosity @ 210°F 78.2 11,000 mile oil change. ( this is the average of what it should be (66-78) 7,000 mile oil change 74.7 I believe the SUS is higher on the 11,000 oil change because I added a quart of oil about 2,500 miles before I changed it
 

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I want to add a caveat to my earlier statement about synthetics. I have noticed in mine, and now it's starting to get out there from other sources, that the cars with synthetics tend to "use" more oil. There was a write-up the other day on one of the auto blogs that said VW and others, using synthetic, considered 1 quart use in 1500-2000 miles as "normal".
 

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I want to add a caveat to my earlier statement about synthetics. I have noticed in mine, and now it's starting to get out there from other sources, that the cars with synthetics tend to "use" more oil. There was a write-up the other day on one of the auto blogs that said VW and others, using synthetic, considered 1 quart use in 1500-2000 miles as "normal".

I have been using synthetic oil ever since I have been changing my oil, and use it in my fiance's car as well. I have NEVER had an issue with synthetic oil in regards to being "used" or anything else. So you may want to check and see if there is something else going wrong with your truck to cause this issue.

In regards to the VWs, that may be vehicle specific, or just a few people's personal experience. You hear all of the negative things on these forums, but never hear anything positive. So for all of those people's cars that "use" oil, how many are out there that have NEVER had any issue that just didn't post anything about it?
 

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Well, after reading these and other posts, I bit the Amsoil bait, and also found a needle grease fitting for my truck.

I am awaiting time so that I can have some "quiet time" (which means alone time to swear loudly) to find the elusive grease fitting in the front drive shaft, lube it, and change over to Amsoil and Amsoil filter.

Hopefully, all will be well. If it is not, I am prepared. I have a fridge full of mind numbing beverages to calm the savage beast.
 

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I read the same article on VWs using a quart of oil in 3000 miles. The oil was 0w20 weight. Seems like the weight of the oil would cause the problem that they said wasnt a problem. I wouldn't go that light. At least not here where its 99 degrees.
 

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I'll be changing the oil in the RAM this week sometime. I've got less than 200 miles on it, and I always like to change it around that time.

I bought some awesome O'Reilly's 5W20 and a Wix filter. It should be good enough for the short oil change interval of 3,000 or so miles. Then I'll probably switch to Synthetic.

I like paying $3.99 for a quart of oil compared to $9.00 bucks.
 

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Im a few thousand kms into my first oil change on my hemi. Used valvoline synpower and a mopar filter. The oil is still very clean.

On my dakota 318 i changed the oil about every 6000km. Napa filter, 15w 40 summer, synthetic or blend (valvoline maxlife very good syn blend) in the winter because morning cranking temps are easily -25 sometimes -30 celsius. A few extra CCA's in your battery helps too :p
 

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Be careful using Maxlife... If you don't NEED it it's not wise to use it. It swells the seals in the engine and you really need to continue using it after starting.
 

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I used synthetic in my 95 Ram, 5.2, for its whole life. 282k miles. I'm leaving out the fact that it had a crack in the head, and had been leaking coolant into the oil since 140k! This would have "done-in" a motor running "Dino-Oil". Organic oil and antifreeze make sludge. This does not happen with synthetic. Makes it a good choice for the Chrysler 2.7 grenades out there! But there is one caveat, all my vehicles seem to use more oil when I use synthetic. NEVER any blue smoke! But they seem to use oil much faster than the Dino oil. Present car is an 01 Stratus with the 2.7, re-built by myself. Oil changes at 7-10k miles with synthetic. 40k in the last 1-1/2 years and still strong.
 

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Quick change in topic but its related to oil changes:

Is the EVIC notification of oil changes actually sense if the oil is dirty or is it just set by the computer?

My EVIC keeps going off at every 3500 miles exactly ( I have 12k miles on my truck) and I checked the dip stick and oil is still clean. I do alot of local driving ( lots of stop and go driving, not alot of highway driving) and it only takes me 15 mins to go to work. I understand that its defined as " severe driving" and warrents the every 3k miles ( but I dont do that. I change my oil every 8k miles but I watch the oil stick when I get my EVIC notifications) oil change.

Im just curious if that oil change indicator is an acual sensor or its just programmed into the computer. If it is just computer based programming, then its a little deceiving to say that the truck will notify u if u need an oil change if you changed it last week, and u get the notification the next week because the computer wasnt reset.
 

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arod412 Raises a great question; What exactly is the on board oil life meter reading? Does it take into consideration load, speed, temps, the level of contaminants or simply mileage or time? Then again, there is the equally, if not more critical component being the filter.

Also, let us be clear here and specify Diesel or Gas engines. Totally different engine dynamics, loads, temps and viscosities.

I suffer from "Old Skool" engine philosophies, and fall prey to the old "wives' tales" or rules of thumb in regards to viscosities , concumption rates and periods between changes.

I always have a habit of feeling the need to immediately swap out factory "Break In" oils early on. More specifically filters. Not so much that they run light break in viscosities anymore, but the belief that it is cheap insurance compared to a new engine, and the theory that a new filter should be swapped out within 1000 miles, just to prevent a clogged filter from any sloppy assembly debris, from stray gasket materials, to metal shavings and human contaminants.

After that, I try to be confident to spread it out.

My newly purchased '07 gasser with the 5.7 (primary around town short hop daily driver) was changed with good synthetics and filters at 7,500 intervals. It started consuming oil early on, but not excessively. I find that it consumes more when operated at freeway speeds, specifically in "Tow / Haul" mode like when towing my boat. My theory is that it is not blowing past the rings under compression, but rather sucking it past the valve guides when held in a gear at higher rpm for extended periods, such as for "engine braking" . It will go through about 1.5 Qt in 5k miles. Somewhat alarming originally for a new truck. But, it has remained consistent as it now approaches 100k. Again, empty, in normal mode, minimal consumption. It may just the be the extremely light viscosity, combined with the synthetic nature and my consumption under high vacume conditions theory.

About 25k in, I tried the Amsoil 25k mile oil. I only made it so far as 15k miles and freaked. Even with spinning on a couple of new, quality filters and topping off during that period, my old ways simply ate me up and I had to change it out. No apparent harm, and it likely could have done the full 25k without incident.

The new 2013 PW with 5.7 gasser found me going back to my old ways. I changed the original oil and filter early on, just to get it out of there. Likely a huge waste.

The onboard oil life meter suggested the next two changes right at the 4400 mile mark. One wih Mobil 1, the last, with super high dollar quality filter and Royal Purple, full synthetic of the recommended light viscosity.

It too consumed a little between changes. Almost a quart in 5k miles of every use imaginable. I just swapped in some Valvoline Syntec and a full sized Bosch filter. Despite heading into winter, I did go with the 5-30, rather than 5-20 as it seemed to make a bit of noise on dry start up. I am hoping the slightly higher grade will quiet things down and take the abuse of heavy loads and extended high RPM running without too much loss in fuel mileage related to parasitic drag of the heavier oil.

I will report back how that goes, as I literally changed it yesterday.

FYI, I ran Mobil 1 in the "built" motor in my '03 Mustang Cobra. It is supercharged and driven hard. It would appear dirty, but I stuck with a 7500 mile change interval. When I smoked that motor (unrelated to oil) and broke it down, at 43k it was still spotless on the interior. I could do 10k intervals while still beating in high RPM, high temps at the dragstrip, high G-Loading and extended VERY high RPM running at the road race course, to lugging it along in bumper to bumper commuting and everything else and after seeing it's insides, and the lack of wear (it still showed factory cross hatch honing and machining marks in the cylinder walls).

But, old habits and the complete false feeling of "treating" the machine to a fresh, high dollar oil change die hard despite seeing the hard cold facts right in my face.

Sometimes, I think us "gear heads" are doing this, and paying the money for "upgraded" oils and filters at a accelerated rate for nothing more than mental peace of mind and a sense of security. ...and sometimes that just may be enough.

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Royal Purple 5w20 with a K&N oil filter at 5k miles. Can't go wrong with that. Oil change sticker? Hell no I use the trip B on my evic because stickers/static clings are trashy on windshields. Lol
 

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That is funny... great minds must think alike. I do the exact same thing; Using "Trip B" to log maintenance cycles.

Had the Royal Purple in it, but it is odd because it is so dark when new it sort of bugs me out. Not that color has anything really to do with remaining oil life.

But, I threw in Valvoline Syntec this time around (I have no previous experience running it) because it was handy and I figured it wouldn't be in there too too long. Went with a Bosch filter rather than the pretty Black K&N units I usually run for the same reason. It was on the shelf.

Just wished the oil life percentage meter could tell the difference between "good" oil and "regular" oils and filters. Then again, maybe it is (?)
 
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