P061A - How serious is it?

[kitt614]

So I was on the highway, and someone was giving me grief with my exit coming up. I had been passing them, and they seemed to get upset by that and sped up to ride next to me. In an attempt to get around them, I accelerated, and went a little bit faster than I normally do.

I ended up getting a couple of warning lights. My cruise control had been on, and the first notice was that CC was disengaged, then a stability control error, and a Check Engine Error popped up. I pulled over, and was in limp mode, but power cycle fixed that.

Car drove just fine for the rest of my trip. I got home and checked the codes, and saw P061A. I assume this has to do with me hitting a little bit of a high speed for a few seconds, but I am finding conflicting information on whether I should assume this is a very serious issue or not. (I also will _not_ be doing that again, and uncharacteristically pushed more than I normally would have, but slamming the brakes to drop behind also would have been a bad option).

Any advice on the severity of the code?

ETA:
Sorry to not add details of the truck.
It's a 2021 Ram 1500 V6 w/ E-Torque Big Horn 4x4

 

[mikeru]

Welcome to the forum. Lots of knowledgeable people here. It's always more helpful if you include details about your truck when asking questions about it. Things such as year, trim level, 4x4 or 4x2, engine, can be critical in getting helpful answers.

See the link below for an article on that trouble code. I'd be taking it in to the dealership to have them look at it. These trucks aren't fragile. Hard acceleration shouldn't break a new truck.

P061A Internal Control Module Torque Performance

How to easily diagnose, repair, and info on causes of a P061A trouble code that indicates a detected internal performance error with the torque performance.

www.obd-codes.com

 

[kitt614]

Thanks for the info! I edited my OP to show truck specifics.

I was thinking that maybe it threw the code from me stomping on the accelerator for too long, similar to what was mentioned in this thread:

H&S users.

Just a heads up. Ryan has been revamping the tunes over the past few months and he will be releasing a second new release 6.7.48 and OD 68.9 very shortly. I think that he's planning on releasing it before this weekend. He has sent out some pre-release tunes to get feedback and I must say that...

www.ramforum.com

If you sit on the rev limiter too long and bump 4100 a few times you'll get a P061A and lightning bolt illuminated on your dash

Though I'm not sure if that olds true for my config. I was considering just driving it the 25 miles or so that I need to hit 50 miles since the code was thrown. But if it doesn't reset, I was thinking about taking it in.

I think a lot of my hesitation with going in is exactly what you said, hard acceleration shouldn't break a new truck, which makes the think it was more from excessive driving than it was from a real issue - almost like a warning not to do that? haha

 

[mikeru]

The link you attached in your last post applies to the Cummins diesel engines in the HD's, not to your v6 gas engine. You can ignore that.

What I meant in my previous post is that accelerating hard should not throw any kind of light in a new truck. The ecu will keep the engine from over revving. You should not have seen any kind of light based on the way you were driving your truck. Maybe on an older truck with a lot of miles you might see a MIL. I accelerate hard with my truck on a regular basis. Which is why I'm averaging less than 15 mpg LOL. But I haven't had any MIL's pop up. It could have been a one time deal, but I would at least get this documented with your dealership as a stored code. I don't think it will reset on its own just by driving. The light may go out but the code is stored in your ecu until you clear it with a code reader or you reset the ecu by disconnecting the battery.

 

[crash68]

I got home and checked the codes, and saw P061A. I assume this has to do with me hitting a little bit of a high speed for a few seconds, but I am finding conflicting information on whether I should assume this is a very serious issue or not. (I also will _not_ be doing that again, and uncharacteristically pushed more than I normally would have, but slamming the brakes to drop behind also would have been a bad option).

It wasn't anything you did, you could have had the throttle buried to the floor with the truck at the speed limiter and slam on the brakes as hard as possible and that error code shouldn't pop up unless there's an actual problem. If it happens again take it to the dealership

 

[Burla]

What gas you run? Hemi's are tuned to 89. I would do the opposite of what you say and actually do it again, now not saying have a beef with some random dude in the crazy country right now, but go ahead and see if you can duplicate it. Causes seam to be more air related then gas, but I never believe that one, the fuel mixture is dependent on 3 things not one.

You might post this in 5 gen to see if more people with your truck are having this issue, to be honest this is the first I have heard of it.

 

[Burla]

Notice at what rpm's this happens or happened.

 

[mikeru]

You might post this in 5 gen to see if more people with your truck are having this issue, to be honest this is the first I have heard of it.

He did post this in the 5th gen forum. 5th gen Engine and Performance. Where do you think you are? LOL

 

[Burla]

He did post this in the 5th gen forum. 5th gen Engine and Performance. Where do you think you are? LOL

mods moved it

 

[turkeybird56]

He did post this in the 5th gen forum. 5th gen Engine and Performance. Where do you think you are? LOL

HEY, LOL. 1st time I have read on ne thing like this. I have Gen 5, but Hemi Non-E-torque. Wonder if this may have something to do with the new V6/E-Torque setup. But the limiter is supposed to not let truck over rev, regardless of what is under the hood. Truck under warranty, I "personally" would take to dealer and get checked/documented.
FWIW: U can not clear a code if stored in permanent sector with most readers. Unknown ref alpha obd doing a reset. The code is supposed to reset when the ECU detects that the situation that caused the permanent code has been corrected. But OP did not say if it was a Perm code or not either. All IMHO..

 

[mikeru]

mods moved it

Not that it's a big deal, but when did they move it? I've been following this thread since Tuesday, and it's been in this forum since then.

 

[Todd Bennett]

I accelerate hard with my truck on a regular basis.

I think that's part of the fun of having a Hemi. I hope mine likes to run!

 

[Colt4thHorseman]

Maybe this code explanation link will help help

Code P061A: Internal Control Module Torque Performance

The Engine Control Module (ECM) compares the actual torque signal computed from an air flow sensor signal with the driver demand torque signal computed

www.autocodes.com

 

[SouthernBornRebel]

P061A Internal Control Module Torque Performance

How to easily diagnose, repair, and info on causes of a P061A trouble code that indicates a detected internal performance error with the torque performance.

www.obd-codes.com

Open or shorted circuit between APP/MAF sensor and PCM. Open or shorted circuit in CAN harness. Clogged air filter element. Defective APP/MAF sensor..... check all sensors for loose connections.
Could be multi things
Monitor vehicle performance for little while to determine the severity.

 

[Siff]

For clarity, were any of the high gears locked out so that it just sat bouncing off the rev limiter while you floored it?

I've never tried just bouncing off the rev limiter, but I can see in an intense situation where it has a hard time killing the fuel injection fast enough and thus may rev a bit too high during one of many bounces with the gas peddle floored in say 4th gear and set off some "over-rev" related errors intended to detect a failure of the rev limiter function.