PPE Transmission Pan

[WiSH2oo0]

Hey All,

Is this the correct PPE pan (part #228053410) for a 2017 Ram 1500?
How many quarts of transmission fluid should I buy for the install?


Thanks

 

[Wild one]

It's alot easier if you put a link up to it,as some of us are to lazy to look it up.PS: the forum also gets credits for links to products ,so don't be shy about putting up a link to whatever you want us to check out.
If the pans for a ZF 8HP70 it'll fit.
Spring for about 7 quarts of fluid,you might have a bit left over,but it's better to have to much fluid then not enough fluid

 

[DILLIGAF]

If only there was a dozen threads on this already

 

[WiSH2oo0]

"If only there was a dozen threads on this already "

Indeed, there is; however, it isn't mentioned that the PPE pan features a raised edge where the transmission fluid seals. Consequently, I will be returning the pan, as this design prevents me from accurately verifying the flatness of the machined aluminum surface. So OE it is.

 

[Wild one]

"If only there was a dozen threads on this already "

Indeed, there is; however, it isn't mentioned that the PPE pan features a raised edge where the transmission fluid seals. Consequently, I will be returning the pan, as this design prevents me from accurately verifying the flatness of the machined aluminum surface. So OE it is.

Post a picture of the PPE pan you have,as i've never seen one with a raised edge,that would stop you from using a straightedge to check it's flatness.

2013-2025 RAM/Dodge/Jeep/BMW/Toyota Supra ZF 8-Speed Heavy-Duty Cast Aluminum Transmission Pan

ZF Cast Aluminum Deep Transmission Pan, 8-Speed - 2013-2025 RAM/Dodge/Jeep/BMW/A90 Supra, permanent replacement pan, Holds 1.0 extra quarts, external cooling fins, optimal heat dissipation.

ppepower.com

 

[WiSH2oo0]

Alright, I just finished my OE Mopar transmission pan and fluid change at 57,500 miles. I decided to try something I haven’t seen anyone else on here do yet. I jacked my truck up 12" to get the transmission level, and just for funzies, I decided to check the stock fluid level before draining it.

I warmed the transmission up and pulled the fill plug at 95°F, but nothing came out. I even stuck my pinkie finger in as far as I could, but it stayed dry. I thought about lowering the truck to level the frame and checking the level again, but I was running out of daylight. I wish I’d had more time to try that.

Following the "green sheet" instructions for the transmission fill, I put in about 5.5 quarts, even though only about 4.5 quarts came out during the drain. I really wish I had checked the fluid level while the truck frame was level. I took it out for a spin and didn't see any leaks, so that is a good sign! I’m just sharing my experience for everyone else on here. Good luck!

Edit:
P.S. The OE transmission fluid was still nice and green, and it even smelled like soap!

 

[jc56berg]

Does using the PPE pan help? Like lower trans temp (my gage says normally 186-F) better with extra fluid capacity etc...? Would like to hear from someone who has this on their 5th gen 8-speed auto trans.

 

[Wild one]

Does using the PPE pan help? Like lower trans temp (my gage says normally 186-F) better with extra fluid capacity etc...? Would like to hear from someone who has this on their 5th gen 8-speed auto trans.

It helps but not as much as you were probably hoping for.The 8 speed has it's own thermostat,that's totally seperate from the engines thermostat,if you really want to lower your 8 speeds temps,look into getting one of Jesse Caulks thermostat bypasses.

 

[EdGs]

..............Following the "green sheet" instructions for the transmission fill, I put in about 5.5 quarts, even though only about 4.5 quarts came out during the drain. I really wish I had checked the fluid level while the truck frame was level........

That's about how much fluid came out, and got put in my Ram when I changed mine, and how much I have read that others have drained from theirs as well.

I think someone mentioned that it seems the new vehicles don't get topped off when they're built. Sure seems like it.

 

[Bigskyroadglide]

My 24 1500 classic was low by a pint in transmission, half a pint in front diff, and rear diff.

Do the math, over 300k vehicles a quarter, that's a bunch of cost savings. All those areas don't have dip sticks.

 

[jc56berg]

It helps but not as much as you were probably hoping for.The 8 speed has it's own thermostat,that's totally seperate from the engines thermostat,if you really want to lower your 8 speeds temps,look into getting one of Jesse Caulks thermostat bypasses.

Thank you Wild. I haven't purchased the pan, was thinking about it but you saved me 300 bucks. I will look into the t-stat bypass. Stop by Thursday and I'll buy you the cheeseburger basket at the horse track for your advice.

 

[RamChief30]

The pans seem to be out of stock everywhere at the moment. I hope there is a new batch soon.

 

[RamDiver]

Thank you Wild. I haven't purchased the pan, was thinking about it but you saved me 300 bucks. I will look into the t-stat bypass. Stop by Thursday and I'll buy you the cheeseburger basket at the horse track for your advice.

I can't see wasting money on the POS OE pan. I'm planning to buy the PPE +2quart pan and Jesse's thermal bypass bundle kit.

Then buy a couple of replacement filter kits.

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[Pushrod8Speed]

I recently (last Nov) bought a 2017 Ram 1500 RWD.
OP: correct pan (black, brushed aluminum, stock capacity).
I got 2+ quart (228053000), 2 extra filters (228058600), BD Diesel exhaust manifolds, the cheapo Mevotech TTX front suspension & hub assemblies, Monroe Air Suspension conversion (to coils/shocks), inner & outer tie rods.
On the transmission fluid, got 12 liters of Eurol ATF 6700. I removed approx 6 liters and replaced with a total of approx 9 liters.
Not aure how old the fluid was, but it wasn't green (neither is the Eurol) or burnt/stinky. Did a 100 mile road test Sunday. Other than a steering angle sensor causing no traction control/ABS/Cruze it's alright.
Sure road good for AT tires and every ball joint and tie rod being burnt toast.

 

[Pushrod8Speed]

On the trans fluid temps...before and after the PPE 176F/80C is highest I've seen. Haven't towed anything with it yet.

 

[NETim]

The biggest advantage of the PPE pan to me is the drain plug location. As in, it’s much more convenient.