Something new for the returning Hemi

[JHoward]

I like my Hemi 1500 and this is my first one, so I am not steeped in RAM and Hemi lore (except the old Hemi). But in my shaky opinion this all is developing as a confusing mess and really illustrates just how badly Stellantis really screwed the RAM pooch a few years ago. They never should have dropped the 5.7 hemi and replaced it with the turbo motors. They should have fixed the hemi and pressed on. Like the SO and RHO motors or not they have been a sales disaster. Now with all the scrambling around to re-introduce the hemi but keep the turbo motors with all the pricing being jacked around and engine availability in the various models a confusing mess, and the engine lineup lacking clarity and logic for most of the public - it reminds me of the squirrel in the middle of the road racing around in circles while my pickup is quickly bearing down on it. I don’t know if this is going to salvage their market share and sales or not. If RAM can’t demonstrate some distinct incentives to buyers like reliability, value, quality, customer service, I don’t know if the customers will be coming back. They may just end up like that flattened squirrel in the middle of the road. Just a personal observation and opinion. You can fact check it all you want, I don’t give a ****.

Absolutely!

 

[GTyankee]

Of course the HEMI made up here in the USA is going to cost more than a Mexican made HEMI

The Labor rates down in Mexico are much cheaper

But the Tariffs are the reason that they reopened one of the old Mopar Buildings

 

[dmillar74]

I have a 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi. But I'm curious why so much hate on the etorque. (I never had one). Is it,bascially, useless so people don't want it?

 

[HEMIMANN]

Desperate move but the real question is will this turn around Ram. The eco boost is taking over the 5.0-liter V8 eventhough they still sell the 5.0, Chevy as well has engine options, but the real question is bringing back the hemi gonna help? I sure hope these bafoons fix the oiling issue, but for the cam/lifter issue the hemi imo would be the most popular engine choice out there. Which is why you don't run these things into the ground, they failed to fix this for 15 years or better. They ran the hemi name into the ground, the Mopar name into the ground and ram into the ground if sales number prove anything.

2020 - 563k, 2022- 468k, 2023-444k, 2024- 373k, worst news this year 1st quarter ram is down even further then last year down 11% MORE from the tragic last year. I wouldn't doubt this year ram falls below GM for crying out loud. Maybe these dummies ought to start hiring truck guys instead of poofy girls and euro donks if they actually wanna turn the table. Let's face it, we all are driving Pontiacs.

Pontiac was great when DeLorean ran it. Had a 1971 Pontiac LeMans with a 400 V8 and THM 400 trans.

The old man wouldn't sell it to me out of fear I'd kill myself - was going to cam it and put at least a 4 pack carb on it.

 

[Dusty]

Meh. I'm glad they're bringing the 5.7 Hemi back for 2026, however I'd rather have a redesigned cam/lifters, redesigned exhaust manifold, MDS elimination, and non e-torque option than a new badge. Just my $.02.

Manufacturers get EPA credits for Stop/Start feature which is why almost everyone offers it.

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 132205 miles.

 

[Silver21Ram]

Meh.. I've already been spoiled with the SST SO. I can't go back to less horsepower, less torque, less throttle response, less fuel mileage, E-Torque to boot, just to hear the HEMI rumble, and sport a new badge... But I get it. I was diehard HEMI too until I got in this thing.

That pretty much sums it all up!
I couldn't agree more!

 

[tim9lives]

Manufacturers get EPA credits for Stop/Start feature which is why almost everyone offers it.

Regards,
Dusty

And its the stupidest feature on a vehicle. If I had a vehicle with that feature, I'd make sure to find a way to disable it. I am convinced that Start/Stop contributes to premature engine failure. Why would it not. Most engine wear occurs when you first start your engine. Of course, it depends on how long that stop light is as to the amount of wear. But still, its bound to contribute to wear.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Manufacturers get EPA credits for Stop/Start feature which is why almost everyone offers it.

Regards,
Dusty

And its the stupidest feature on a vehicle. If I had a vehicle with that feature, I'd make sure to find a way to disable it. I am convinced that Start/Stop contributes to premature engine failure. Why would it not. Most engine wear occurs when you first start your engine. Of course, it depends on how long that stop light is as to the amount of wear. But still, its bound to contribute to wear.

Do you know if they (EPA & OEM) allow owners to shut off the festure?

 

[TN Mopar]

Do you know if they (EPA & OEM) allow owners to shut off the festure?

This is one of the regulations the current EPA has said they would eliminate

 

[HEMIMANN]

This is one of the regulations the current EPA has said they would eliminate

Not my question, though.

 

[Ubem]

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I don't really care one way or another about the emblem but sticking it on the tire is kinda weird

 

[johnhenryculver]

Meh. I'm glad they're bringing the 5.7 Hemi back for 2026, however I'd rather have a redesigned cam/lifters, redesigned exhaust manifold, MDS elimination, and non e-torque option than a new badge. Just my $.02.

 

[johnhenryculver]

The 2016 Hemi powered Ram trucks get a new badge
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Ram Screwed Up Dumping The V8 So They Brought It Back | Carscoops

It's got a Hemi! The 5.7-liter V8 returns in the 2026 Ram 1500

www.carscoops.com

You have to wonder how many people will buy this emblem for their Hemi trucks.

Everything i am seeing says 2026 Hemi will have etorque! Deal killer for me, i was ready to order as soon as available Laramie platform, but if e torque is mandatory then no order from me!

 

[Burla]

ok this is next level crazy. e torque is a complete fail and has been phased out, but now they want to raise e torque from the ashes like the phoenix along with them hemi? I guess the jeep CEO cares about his customers more then ram CEO? How can you explain this one, Jeep said nah we good later e torque, ram says welcome back e torque?? One word - Pontiac

FCA (Fiat Chrysler Automobiles), now part of Stellantis, did indeed phase out the eTorque system for certain engine options after the 2023 model year.
Specifically:

• Jeep Wrangler: The 3.6L eTorque system was discontinued for all 2024+ models. The 2.0L eTorque had been offered for model years 2018-2019.
• Ram 1500: While the 2024 Ram 1500 with the 3.6L Pentastar V6 comes standard with eTorque, and it's an option for the 5.7L Hemi V8, the Classic version (which is a continuation of the previous generation truck) is being discontinued after the 2024 model year, meaning a new half-ton truck with a Hemi V8 and eTorque won't be offered after that.

Reasoning:
The phasing out of the eTorque system, especially in models like the Jeep Wrangler, appears to be linked to a shift in powertrain strategy and potentially some reliability concerns expressed by owners. There have been reports of eTorque system failures and related issues, like sudden power loss and battery problems. The move towards newer engine options, like the Hurricane Straight-Six Turbo engine for the Ram 1500, suggests a focus on updated technology and potential improvements in fuel efficiency.
In summary, while the eTorque system was available on certain models up to 2023, it has been largely phased out after that year for certain vehicles, particularly the Jeep Wrangler and the soon-to-be-discontinued Ram 1500 Classic, in favor of newer engine options and technologies

 

[Burla]

Everything i am seeing says 2026 Hemi will have etorque! Deal killer for me, i was ready to order as soon as available Laramie platform, but if e torque is mandatory then no order from me!

good on you john henry

Protest ram's new protest badge by not buying one, yes I like it. You know it takes a lot for any manu to discontinue an emissions piece that actually helps their CAFE numbers, so the pure amount of e torque fails has to be astronomical. It's a lie they had to include it = total lie. The stuff they do is like they want to rule over us for our own good. They will soon get a lesson in protest!!

 

[Burla]

I have a 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi. But I'm curious why so much hate on the etorque. (I never had one). Is it,bascially, useless so people don't want it?

Actually guys love it, til its breaks and there is no fix and the car/truck sits for months with multiple class action lawsuits to siphon through. Run the 6.4 til the guts fall out.

 

[DanAR]

I’m not crazy about the e-torque but mine hasn’t generated any problems. The only thing I really, really wish they had incorporated was a delay on shutting off for 3 or 4 seconds. It’s really stupid to roll up to a stop sign in the middle of nowhere, come to a complete stop and immediately leave, but first the engine must stop and then restart - almost encourages a slow roll through stop signs. Or trying to creep into the garage and up to the wheel stop and it keeps shutting off and starting. I believe someone wrote on here that they (whoever they are) determined it saved fuel at stop lights after 7 seconds. So how about a 5 second delay??

One bright side - everyone seems to pretty much agree that excessive idling is not good for these engines due to the cam/lifter design so I just let it do its thing and live with it if it might help engine longevity in stop and go traffic. The issue with the AC going warm at traffic lights is really not a big deal. If it starts getting a little warm, just let up on the pressure on the brake pedal a little and it fires right back up and stays running.

 

[Fnjoey]

Getting rid of mds, and redesigning the cam lifter issue to keep it from eating itself would be nice.. also, fixing the leak issues, from the back window to the shark fin.. I had to replace my window once, then it started dripping again, so I replaced the gasket on the 3rd brake light as I sealed the window, and it stopped for a week, then I pulled and resealed the shark fin.. went to the car wash the other day, no leak.. it rained the day after and I got a drip again... wtf.

 

[HEMIMANN]

ok this is next level crazy. e torque is a complete fail and has been phased out, but now they want to raise e torque from the ashes like the phoenix along with them hemi? I guess the jeep CEO cares about his customers more then ram CEO? How can you explain this one, Jeep said nah we good later e torque, ram says welcome back e torque?? One word - Pontiac

FCA (Fiat Chrysler Automobiles), now part of Stellantis, did indeed phase out the eTorque system for certain engine options after the 2023 model year.
Specifically:

• Jeep Wrangler: The 3.6L eTorque system was discontinued for all 2024+ models. The 2.0L eTorque had been offered for model years 2018-2019.
• Ram 1500: While the 2024 Ram 1500 with the 3.6L Pentastar V6 comes standard with eTorque, and it's an option for the 5.7L Hemi V8, the Classic version (which is a continuation of the previous generation truck) is being discontinued after the 2024 model year, meaning a new half-ton truck with a Hemi V8 and eTorque won't be offered after that.

Reasoning:
The phasing out of the eTorque system, especially in models like the Jeep Wrangler, appears to be linked to a shift in powertrain strategy and potentially some reliability concerns expressed by owners. There have been reports of eTorque system failures and related issues, like sudden power loss and battery problems. The move towards newer engine options, like the Hurricane Straight-Six Turbo engine for the Ram 1500, suggests a focus on updated technology and potential improvements in fuel efficiency.
In summary, while the eTorque system was available on certain models up to 2023, it has been largely phased out after that year for certain vehicles, particularly the Jeep Wrangler and the soon-to-be-discontinued Ram 1500 Classic, in favor of newer engine options and technologies

Lawyer weasel words: "and potentially some reliability concerns expressed by owners". Yeah, that's right - owners are merely "concerned" - nevermind the actual FAILURES of the system.

WTF

Pontiac failed because they were taken over by corporate management, then launched the Aztek GoBot-mobile. FAIL

 

[Burla]

One bright side - everyone seems to pretty much agree that excessive idling is not good for these engines due to the cam/lifter design so I just let it do its thing and live with it if it might help engine longevity in stop and go traffic. The issue with the AC going warm at traffic lights is really not a big deal. If it starts getting a little warm, just let up on the pressure on the brake pedal a little and it fires right back up and stays running.

I think the idle issue is idle rpm versus in motion rpm which differs around 1000 give or take, not between idle and constantly shutting off, which is probably worst of all for longevity. IMO anyhow. Vehicles with start stop beefed up all kinds of stuff like alternators or alt/Genny in effort to help this issue, and despite that they seam to fail quicker then gold ol regular alt w/o start stop garbagola.