Stellantis admits they can't build a reliable PHEV, throws in the towel during current stop sale

All Jeep and Chrysler Plug-In Hybrid Models Are Officially Dead: Exclusive

This does not impact future range-extended electric models, the company told us.

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On a tip from a reader, The Drive reported Monday that the Wrangler and Grand Cherokee 4xes had both disappeared from their respective “Build and Price” tools on Jeep’s website. After our story was originally published, a Jeep spokesperson confirmed that an active stop-sale remained in place on all 4xe models due to ongoing recall campaigns, but stopped short of addressing their absence from the website itself. Now we know why they vanished.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Ol Carlos burned it to the ground before they booted him.

Heckuva job, Brownie!

 

[ronheater70]

We still Love ours! We have a 21 wrangler 4xe High Altitude with the one touch top. 47K miles on it now, absolutely love it!

 

[tjfdesmo]

Good riddance.

 

[DILLIGAF]

They cant build anything reliable,

 

[TRK_GANG74]

Gas is King!

 

[Docwagon1776]

Gas is King!

Toyota sells a **** ton of PHEVs. The Rav4 Prime is one of the best selling ever.

...but, they don't set fire randomly from the 2.0 turbo motor like Stellantis, don't have a ridiculous failure rate on the electronics, and well....work.

This is why I don't trust Ram's new EREV project. They've repeatedly proven they can't build a complicated electrical system. Ford and Toyota are so far ahead of them on this front they can't even see the taillights any more.

 

[TRK_GANG74]

I will never put my life in danger by riding in anything with a large lithium battery. Five minutes or less to fill up, no stupid plugs to worry about, and no ridiculous cost to replace said battery when it craps out.

 

[turkeybird56]

I will never put my life in danger by riding in anything with a large lithium battery. Five minutes or less to fill up, no stupid plugs to worry about, and no ridiculous cost to replace said battery when it craps out.

Wonder we be better off go back to steam??? Lol

 

[Docwagon1776]

I will never put my life in danger by riding in anything with a large lithium battery. Five minutes or less to fill up, no stupid plugs to worry about, and no ridiculous cost to replace said battery when it craps out.

If Ford builds a decent EREV, I will. I'm not scared of the battery any more than I'm scared of tubes of flammable liquid running near a hot motor. With the plug in hybrids you still get all the benefits of a regular gas engine, still get the unlimited range of just refilling with gas, but you also get the economics and performance boost of electric. You've got hybrids on the road for over a decade with the original battery, and the drivetrain is much simpler so what's the difference between needing a battery and needing a transmission at some point?

The Rav4 Prime is an economy SUV that smokes most sports cars from just a few years ago, but to me the bigger possibility is the independent drives at each wheel like Rivian and the agility and maneuverability that provides off road. Being able to neutral steer like a tracked vehicle, having the equivalent of 4 wheel steering for getting around obstacles? Yes, please.

 

[TRK_GANG74]

Wonder we be better off go back to steam??? Lol

Ha ha. All it takes is 1 bad battery cell and being parked in or near your home. No thanks. Just because I won’t get onboard with a large lithium battery makes me practical and the risks are to high to take with these cars. Their minimal so called performance specs mean nothing to me. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

 

[turkeybird56]

Ha ha. All it takes is 1 bad battery cell and being parked in or near your home. No thanks. Just because I won’t get onboard with a large lithium battery makes me practical and the risks are to high to take with these cars. Their minimal so called performance specs mean nothing to me. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

Cant tell U how many times I have told PPL use the KISS principal and quit making work, not needed.

YUP, I do not mind AGM in truck which is what I have. NO Lithium in truck and no friggin battery pack under my backside either when driving. My new Cub Cadet Mower comes with a small, lot smaller than conventional battery used to be in the mowers, and it is AGM.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Gas is King!

You spelled Diesel wrong

 

[TRK_GANG74]

You spelled Diesel wrong

Diesel is automatically included.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Nope not the same

 

[jmc921]

Wonder we be better off go back to steam??? Lol

With a really loud steam whistle! Toot, toot! Sign me up

 

[Fake-Account27]

If Ford builds a decent EREV, I will. I'm not scared of the battery any more than I'm scared of tubes of flammable liquid running near a hot motor. With the plug in hybrids you still get all the benefits of a regular gas engine, still get the unlimited range of just refilling with gas, but you also get the economics and performance boost of electric. You've got hybrids on the road for over a decade with the original battery, and the drivetrain is much simpler so what's the difference between needing a battery and needing a transmission at some point?

The Rav4 Prime is an economy SUV that smokes most sports cars from just a few years ago, but to me the bigger possibility is the independent drives at each wheel like Rivian and the agility and maneuverability that provides off road. Being able to neutral steer like a tracked vehicle, having the equivalent of 4 wheel steering for getting around obstacles? Yes, please.

I will also be looking closely at the ford EREV. I have a chevy bolt as my around town car and it drives very similar to my diesel truck. Regenerative braking feels close to the same as the exhaust brake, both have great torque. I see huge potential here for towing. You get most of the same advantages of a Diesel without the emission stuff.

If they made an EREV with a small diesel engine and were allowed to skip the emission stuff I would be first in line to buy.

 

[BigMopar440]

For EVs to become even a remotely viable option they will have to shift from storing electricity to producing it on demand.

 

[lpennock]

ICE vehicles don't produce energy on demand. They store it in the from of Gas/Diesel and then convert it to usable work in the engine. EV is just storing the energy in a different form and converting it with an electric motor. It the energy replacement time that's the issue rather than the storage form.

 

[Docwagon1776]

ICE vehicles don't produce energy on demand. They store it in the from of Gas/Diesel and then convert it to usable work in the engine. EV is just storing the energy in a different form and converting it with an electric motor. It the energy replacement time that's the issue rather than the storage form.

Well, he said produce electricity, not produce energy. As in an onboard generator to produce electricity to fill the battery, like a modern locomotive or the EREVs under development we're discussing up thread.