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[Burla]

19,000 posts and his contribution was to tell you not to get in a tizzy over ZDDP. I would bet very few people at Bob's will believe it is the Moly, yet the facts are the facts.

 

[SportyJames]

Put some ZDDP and MO2 in this morning.
Will advise.

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Quiet and 52psi at 75 mph.
Just the injectors firing is all I hear now.

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[U&A]

Quiet and 52psi at 75 mph.
Just the injectors firing is all I hear now.

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Sorry if I missed it but did you do a UOA prior to the current fill with additives?

Regardless,we would all love to see one on this fill. The jury is still out on both of those additives and I believe you are currently the only one running MOS2 right now. If we know what your oil has for additives to begin with than your UOA will definitely shead some light on the Moly and ZDDP.

How much of each did you add and what brand of ZDDP?

As for BITOG, for me it is geting out of hand with the ********. To many opinions and not enough facts or testing like we are doing here. I agree that i ONLY go there for the UOA 's & VOA 's .....and the articles.

 

[SportyJames]

Sorry if I missed it but did you do a UOA prior to the current fill with additives?

Regardless,we would all love to see one on this fill. The jury is still out on both of those additives and I believe you are currently the only one running MOS2 right now. If we know what your oil has for additives to begin with than your UOA will definitely shead some light on the Moly and ZDDP.

How much of each did you add and what brand of ZDDP?

As for BITOG, for me it is geting out of hand with the ********. To many opinions and not enough facts or testing like we are doing here. I agree that i ONLY go there for the UOA 's & VOA 's .....and the articles.

Did not do a UOA last change. Will definitely do one this time. I used the entire bottle on both.


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[SportyJames]

Bought this too, but not going to add.

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[Burla]

Redline 5w30 less then 10 per quart free shipping over 100 dollars. Don't buy them all up, I will be getting some of these.

 

[U&A]

Sportyjames

Wont your zinc be well over 2000 PPM when using the whole bottle?

 

[SportyJames]

Sportyjames

Wont your zinc be well over 2000 PPM when using the whole bottle?

Is that too much Zinc?

 

[U&A]

Is that too much Zinc?

From my reading it seem pritty high. But dont take my word for it as im not an oil analysis expert.

I do know that to much will actually attack the cams. Dont know how much it takes though. If i were you id find out how much was in you ****** oil and then find out how much you added to figure out your PPM.

Additives should not be taken lightly. Reaserch needs to be done before you add stuff to your oil.

What oil did you use and what is the PPM in a full bottle of the additive you used.?

 

[R.L.K.]

It seems 5-6 years ago it wasn't uncommon to see the Zinc levels 1500 to 1800 in voas , so imo if your math comes out to be 2000-2500ppm just drain a couple qts out & replenish with your oil type .

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[SportyJames]

Well, S**T. Thought I read the whole bottle is used.

 

[U&A]

Well, S**T. Thought I read the whole bottle is used.

The pic i saw said whole bottle for "race engines". Im sure it says use "x" amount (probobly .oz's) per "x" number of quarts for "gasoline engines" ir somthing like that.

"Race" engines get the oil dumped after each race usually and need the super high amounts lubrication additive because they beat the sh&@ out of the oil.

 

[Hemi395]

Just checked SyNs BITOG thread, quite a few new posts....

 

[SportyJames]

From my reading it seem pritty high. But dont take my word for it as im not an oil analysis expert.

I do know that to much will actually attack the cams. Dont know how much it takes though. If i were you id find out how much was in you ****** oil and then find out how much you added to figure out your PPM.

Additives should not be taken lightly. Reaserch needs to be done before you add stuff to your oil.

What oil did you use and what is the PPM in a full bottle of the additive you used.?

900 PPM Zinc in the oil itself.

 

[Burla]

Just checked SyNs BITOG thread, quite a few new posts....

Actually a couple of decent posts anyways. But I won't post over there again, there is no reason too. I left the info, they can digest it or whatever. You will never convince that forum what we have done here. We could have double the numbers they will still same the same thing. I'm too long in the tooth to waste energy. The info is there, maybe it will help a guy with a hemi, maybe not, don't really care. We did a lot of work here, that is what matters to me. I do regret not keeping better records, maybe even posting the testing earlier over at bob's. But whatever, I'm already over it. I at least helped a couple guys, and I have gotten plenty help in return around here. RF rules.

 

[Burla]

Well I pulled a Burla, lol. I guess I had one more bob's-the-oil-guy post left in my key board. That is why I use machinelube for most of my research anyhow. Bob's is a shadow of what it once was. Machineline lube you get the science without ego, best part of the internet right there. Don't get me wrong, Bob's still has awesome info. But there are so many talkers over there, and I am more of a doer.

Oops, I posted again. Well that was even less cordial of me. I really don't want to add to the problem they have over there. Damn Syn.

 

[Hemi395]

Man, I'm about to throw my .02 in over there. Totally different attitude and atmosphere over there than here.

 

[Burla]

Go for it.

 

[U&A]

Website really sucks.

http://www.zddpmaxx.com

But if you go off of the clams than you may have added roughly 1900 ppm.

From the website

"ZDDP MAXX!!! ZDDP MAXX is a revolutionary concentrated product that will changes your ZDDP level to over 1910ppm with just 2oz in 4 - 6 quarts"

Soooo are they saying you're adding 1910 ppm or are they saying when you add it on top of your oil the 1910 ppm is the final results based on an average amount of ZDDP in API oils ?

If thats the caes than lets say your oil has roughly 600-800 of each ( phosphorus and zinc) so tou may have 2,500 to 2,700 PPM.


This is all just speculation. Google may help you find the true PPM of the concentration. The math is easy when they share the info.

 

[Burla]

Sporty the only risk you have is that someday you might have to replace the cats early, a 100 dollar fix. if it was me, I wouldn't even change the oil. Just keep running it til time ti change. I'm sorry for forgetting, but why are you running a zinc additive?