tuner/programmer, does it leave a foot print?

[hemihustlin]

A friend with a 12' had his transmission go out and the local dealership wouldn't warranty it because it had a tune.He removed the tune before bringing it but supposedly the Mileage on the PCM freezes whenever you tune the truck so it doesn't match what the odometer reads.He paid the tech on the side and the tech fixed the mileage on the PCM and he brought the truck to another dealer and they warranties it no questions asked!

Charles

Lol, sounds like your friend got hustled! how many "rollbacks" or fowards in this case has this tech done you think?

I agree anything is possible but this is the first time ever that i hear this and it smells fishy from here!

 

[pld]

Yes, I believe they do. I also have a great relationship with mine, he said if you add tuner, they are supposed to log that into the nationwide database...aka, no warranty. So I skipped a tuner.

Same here; the head service guy at my dealership said the same thing to me.

 

[xrsman]

Unless he blows a head gasket or there is some other "expensive" damage as mentioned above. When the repair is extensive the dealer is required to notify and have a factory rep conduct a thorough check to make sure a tuner was not involved. Ask me how I know.

Honestly, he could care less about an expensive repair lol

 

[man n black]

To answer the OP question. ...YES...All tuners leave some kind of foot print in the factory ecu that can be traced by RAM trucks should they so choose. ..

Cheers,
Ch

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[trikeffex]

Lol, sounds like your friend got hustled! how many "rollbacks" or fowards in this case has this tech done you think?

I agree anything is possible but this is the first time ever that i hear this and it smells fishy from here!

Maybe and maybe not..Whether he was hustled or not $50 is a whole lot better vs the price it would have been to rebuild the transmission..

Charles

 

[hemihustlin]

Wow 50 bucks is a good deal for sure, i was thinking $$$

 

[Quigs]

Around OKC I have found if you remove your tuner, set your truck back to stock there's no issue.
Other wise it's the first thing they blame.
Oh and don't go to Frontier Dogde in El Reno....

OKC! When is the Punisher going to get it's shot at the top ten list?

 

[Graygoose]

OKC! When is the Punisher going to get it's shot at the top ten list?

I know ALL the guys on that list.....no mild truck can get close to 8 and up.

 

[BlownGP]

OKC! When is the Punisher going to get it's shot at the top ten list?

Never in that POS

 

[Graygoose]

Never in that POS

Dustins catfish runs damn good, as well as Youngbloods if he would have gotten the nitrous to work, but they installed the motor right before they filmed that episode. That truck better run 10's to even be in the gatekeeper spot.

 

[BlownGP]

Dustins catfish runs damn good, as well as Youngbloods if he would have gotten the nitrous to work, but they installed the motor right before they filmed that episode. That truck better run 10's to even be in the gatekeeper spot.

I was talking about Lil ****zz

 

[Graygoose]

I was talking about Lil ****zz

 

[trikeffex]

Wow 50 bucks is a good deal for sure, i was thinking $$$

Oh for sure man.I wasn't there so i didn't see it firsthand about the mileage not matching,But he called me when he was there waiting on him to fix the mileage to let me know it does that when its tuned.Im sure for small warranty items they could prob careless but for somthing like that i can see where they would start digging for somthing.

Charles

 

[Ramsfan78]

This may have been stated already but the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act states that it is unlawful to void a warranty just because in a modification. It goes on to state that they can refuse service on only a particular part if and only if it was caused by said modification.

Just sayin.


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[jadocs]

You don't understand the MM act. It doesn't mean you can hop up the engine with modifications.

 

[jcat]

You don't understand the MM act. It doesn't mean you can hop up the engine with modifications.

Well actually, you can. For example, if you supercharge the truck, but a control arm fails, they cannot refuse the warranty claim on the control am because of the supercharger. Or if you re-gear the truck and your radiator lets go, sane kind of deal.

Now if the trans is acting up after the blower, you're up **** Creek without a paddle since the two can be relatively easily connected.

 

[Jim45498]

You have an engine with almost 400hp and gobs of tourque. Chrysler engineers spent millions of dollars to develop an engine that gives you power and service for years.
What makes you think that an over rated device that cost a few hundred dollars can make that engine do better and last longer than what the engineers have developed?

Not trying to start an argument but that's like saying your neighbor is a better doctor than your neurosurgon??

 

[Badunit]

You have an engine with almost 400hp and gobs of tourque. Chrysler engineers spent millions of dollars to develop an engine that gives you power and service for years.
What makes you think that an over rated device that cost a few hundred dollars can make that engine do better and last longer than what the engineers have developed?

Not trying to start an argument but that's like saying your neighbor is a better doctor than your neurosurgon??

Which is it, "do better" or "last longer"? They are often contradictory. The programmers go for "do better" at the detriment of "last longer". And apparently they do run better and are more powerful with a programmer.

 

[Haza45]

You have an engine with almost 400hp and gobs of tourque. Chrysler engineers spent millions of dollars to develop an engine that gives you power and service for years.
What makes you think that an over rated device that cost a few hundred dollars can make that engine do better and last longer than what the engineers have developed?

Not trying to start an argument but that's like saying your neighbor is a better doctor than your neurosurgon??

Engineers are shackled by emissions regulatons that we in the aftermarket world are not. As well Engineers have budgets and must remain well within them. So that being said yes you could easily spend a few hundred dollars to extract a ton of performance, like many have for about a century. Vehicles that are mass produced have performance issues, for example our Y pipe.... x met y on that graph x being cost and y being performance hence us ending up with that complete disaster. Somehow im guessing the engineers didnt forsee that heap of garbage under the vehicle. Not to mention changing the cam timing/ignition timing and fuel tables would cause the truck to fail emissions testing in most states. Therefore there is a lot of performance left on the table. I just wish Dodge, had spent another million to issue a transmission that was'nt at its limits.... but I guess we're to dumb to know were not engineers..

 

[jcat]

You have an engine with almost 400hp and gobs of tourque. Chrysler engineers spent millions of dollars to develop an engine that gives you power and service for years.
What makes you think that an over rated device that cost a few hundred dollars can make that engine do better and last longer than what the engineers have developed?

Not trying to start an argument but that's like saying your neighbor is a better doctor than your neurosurgon??

So a tuner alone providing an additional 30hp and 30lb ft of torque isn't enough proof for you?

How about all the other mods that add power? Challenger/Charger guys making upwards of 700+?

If we took everything engineers did as perfect since 'they know better', there would be no such thing as an aftermarket.