Ultra 5w20 vs 5w30

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Anyone know if there is a difference (besides viscosity) between the two? I found the 5w20 on Wal-Mart for 6.80/qt then there was 5w30 for 8.40/qt. Also how much difference is there between ultra platinum and the regular platinum?
 

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9 to 11 at operating temps, the 0w40 is only 13 and shears down to 12. I would be using either 0w40, or 5w30 or a combo in the hemi. Not much difference other then viscosity which should be your concern anyhow. Except 0w40, that oil is stout.

Maybe get a couple 0w40's and get that cheaper 5w20.
 
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Realized maybe I should have put this in engine section. With cold temps now I was thinking of staying with 5w20. Then when,it warms I'll start running some 5w30 or 0w40 mix. Also trying to cut costs, have a baby on the way. Its a daily driver I occassio,ally get on it but 90% of the time it's highway/city mix
 

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FYI if you keep an eye on the 5 quart jug on walmart.com, once its in stock they are going for 24.95. Granted, you cant just pull it off the shelf at your store, but its a LOT cheaper to order online for shipping to your house or nearest Walmart.
 
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I've been keeping an eye on that one, it's always out of stock and I signed up to be notified when it is in stock about 3 months ago. Never saw it in stock.
 

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The only recommended oil weight for an MDS Hemi is 5w20.

5w30 "may" give some engine code and cause some erratic engine performance.
 

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The only recommended oil weight for an MDS Hemi is 5w20.

5w30 "may" give some engine code and cause some erratic engine performance.
Wrong.

For warmer climates 5w40 is recommended....
That's what I used for 3 years in my 6.4 with no problems.

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The only recommended oil weight for an MDS Hemi is 5w20.
5w30 "may" give some engine code and cause some erratic engine performance.
I run Castrol Edge 10W30 and the truck just run's fine
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That's a good deal. Under $4/qt for a premium synthetic oil. Buy a good quality Mopar oil filter for it too when you're ordering. Don't put your truck at risk with the industry's WORST built filter (basic Fram)!
 

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That's a good deal. Under $4/qt for a premium synthetic oil. Buy a good quality Mopar oil filter for it too when you're ordering. Don't put your truck at risk with the industry's WORST built filter (basic Fram)!

And yet, the Fram Ultra is rated as one of the best.....
 

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Yeah see oil filter thread. follow the --V--.

The dude is correct, the manu recommends 5w20, but you have to decide if manu is short for manufacturer or manure because 5w20 is a load of ****. JAPAN
 

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And yet, the Fram Ultra is rated as one of the best.....

This^^^. Fram ultra syn is what I have been running on my truck since the first oil change and is a top of the line oil filter.

I run 5w30 PUP in my truck because it seems to like it better than 5w20 but my MDS is also shut off via tuning.
 
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No need to turn off the MDS just to run 5-30.
 

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il filters are rated by their Beta Ratio. This is a test where the filters are subjected to a fluid and the fluid is loaded with very specific amounts of known glass beads. The size of the glass beads are a known as well as how many. Sizes can vary to 1 micron. The fluid is then run thru the filter. What the filter captures is known as its single pass specs. A decent filter will capture around 90% single pass. Your K&N won't pass that test. After the results of the single pass test, then the fluid is pumped thru the filter over and over until there are no glass beads being filtered out. This is called multi-pass specs. That's how K&N designs and tests their filters. Here's the good news, I think the test critieria is pure BS. There is no set spec for the viscosity of the fluid, no set temperature, no set pressure or rate that the fluid is pumped. But there is a test. When looking at any oil filter, know you are looking at compromise of some kind. You can have great flow, like the K&N, or you can have great filtration, like a Purolator One, but you can't have both. If you have a filter media that filters great, it will sacrifice flow to get it. To get great flow, you'll sacrifice filtration. Synthetic media, blended media, or paper, doesn't matter. Most any quality oil filter will go 10,000 miles easily on a current production engine. With our gasolines we have today and the lean burn technologies, the engines just don't make the trash they did when you had a carbed engine. Of the better oil filters, Purolator and the NAPA Gold are about as good as it gets for filtration. Mobil One and K&N are among the best filters for increased flow.

About the oil. While you don't the issue, there are some here probably driving a direct injected engine. They are a problem child. For your truck and those that have the DI engines, you need to know what NOACK is. It is the amount of oil that evaporated under the ASTM D-5800 test. The oil is subjected to heat of 250C/ 482F for one hour. The number given to the test is the amount of oil that will cook off or evaporate in percentage of weight. So when you have the Mobil One 5w-30 at 10.2, that means that 10.2% of the oil by weight cooked off. The maximum allowable by API is 15%. Not much "premium" in the bottle in my opinion. You can do significantly better by switching to the cheaper Pennzoil Yellow Bottle in 10W-30, which has a NOACK of 4.2 and beats ALL synthetics by a lot. Note, this is 10w, not 5w. If your cold startup temps never get to -25C, you can use the 10w oils. If it gets colder, you'll need to stick with the 5W or even the 0W oils. So my recommendation is to use the Pennzoil YB in 10w-30 unless you have the minus 25C and colder startups. The 2.5 Nissan engine is used a lot in testing motor oils. A simple engine that wears great. The Platinum is a good choice. The 2.5 at 7500 miles should be no issue. The 4.0, I'd suggest 6000miles instead regardless of what oil you use. The issue is the 4.0 engine likes to shear oil. 7500 miles will be pushing it to the max. As an oil shears, it gets thin and it starts to degrade. I'd call 6000 miles tops.
 
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