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my 2020 8.4 has a radio shut off button.Most of the radios, especially the 5" screens did not have the option to turn off the radio. They added this in 20 or 21.
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my 2020 8.4 has a radio shut off button.Most of the radios, especially the 5" screens did not have the option to turn off the radio. They added this in 20 or 21.
You would think "mute" which is the "off" button would be sticky at least between ACC and RUN! I think it is ridiculous. I guess the actual volume is sticky. I will try that and try to remember it when I turn off. I tried the AUX solution others have posted and that does not work for me.Rather than "turning it off" when you shut down, just get in the habit of lowering the volume to 0. Same overall result. I agree. I would like to turn it off, but the lack of this feature is not keeping me up at night.
I believe it's only sticky at 1 or above.I guess the actual volume is sticky.
Nope! It's the splined coupling in the 2 piece driveshaft!The slight clunk I hear/ feel when coming to a stop sometimes. I think it is the tranny going into neutral or whatever.
Engineers aren't high. Most folks are unaware of the pathway of vehicle design, development, and production.I love my Ram. I hate 2 things though:
1. Oil filter placement
2. Trans pan
Those engineers were high that day I guess…
I'm not going down the engineers are high road but I would love to hear why they continue to put MDS on engines. It doesn't change my fuel mileage at all and based on the hundreds of responses I've seen on this forum most don't like it. What's the purpose of putting a feature that can only do harm to the engine? I don't get it.Engineers aren't high. Most folks are unaware of the pathway of vehicle design, development, and production.
Powertrain is it's own department. Body design is IT's own department, frequently in another facility from powertrain.
Some here may remember the GM trucks that, for decades, required removal of the transmission crossmember in order to get to the rear pan bolts of the transmission just to do a service. That was due to Fisher Body and powertrain division wars that went on within corporate politics of GM, until 1995, when GM brought over a fellow named Perez from GM Europe (in Spain) to take the helm and get rid of that, among other stupid realities that were causing GM to financially bleed to death.
Entire departments of development and production were at war with each other. Egos had a big part in that, and Perez gave a lot of people walking papers. He restructured the basis of how cars/ trucks were designed and produced.
Finally, as of 1998, the need to remove the crossmember to remove a transmission pan on Chevy/GMC trucks was mitigated by producing the trucks with the crossmember relocated 2 inches rearward.
That, my friend is just one of MANY examples of how the oil filters become a nightmare to access, etc. It's all about production costs, not about yours or my convenience in gaining access to nut, bolts, and so forth.
Try to get to the HVAC amplifier on a Camry!
This. Then you add in the corporate bean counters that pinch pennies on everything they possibly can on a vehicle. This is how you get the many little quirks and problems on a vehicle. And all car companies do it.Engineers aren't high. Most folks are unaware of the pathway of vehicle design, development, and production.
Powertrain is it's own department. Body design is IT's own department, frequently in another facility from powertrain.
Some here may remember the GM trucks that, for decades, required removal of the transmission crossmember in order to get to the rear pan bolts of the transmission just to do a service. That was due to Fisher Body and powertrain division wars that went on within corporate politics of GM, until 1995, when GM brought over a fellow named Perez from GM Europe (in Spain) to take the helm and get rid of that, among other stupid realities that were causing GM to financially bleed to death.
Entire departments of development and production were at war with each other. Egos had a big part in that, and Perez gave a lot of people walking papers. He restructured the basis of how cars/ trucks were designed and produced.
Finally, as of 1998, the need to remove the crossmember to remove a transmission pan on Chevy/GMC trucks was mitigated by producing the trucks with the crossmember relocated 2 inches rearward.
That, my friend is just one of MANY examples of how the oil filters become a nightmare to access, etc. It's all about production costs, not about yours or my convenience in gaining access to nut, bolts, and so forth.
Try to get to the HVAC amplifier on a Camry!
The MDS system is likely an EPA thing. Show that they are "trying" to improve economy, and also a sales tactic. "We turn off half of your 5.7L V8, so it becomes a 2.35L "V"4 when it doesn't need the 350+ HP".I'm not going down the engineers are high road but I would love to hear why they continue to put MDS on engines. It doesn't change my fuel mileage at all and based on the hundreds of responses I've seen on this forum most don't like it. What's the purpose of putting a feature that can only do harm to the engine? I don't get it.
And why put a TPMS feature on a truck that isn't reliable? My tire indicator light comes on when my tires have only fluctuated a couple of psi yet are still within the programmed range and are working fine (according to the dealer).
Ram isn't alone in doing stuff that makes no sense. All manufactures do it just some take it to another level.
MDS is likely motivated by an implied belief that the mileage will, somehow, get very high. That's myopic at the base level, physics wise. I mean, there is so much energy needed to hurtle a 5,000 + pound vehicle down the road, overcoming all considered laws of nature and physics regarding friction, wind resistance, etc.I'm not going down the engineers are high road but I would love to hear why they continue to put MDS on engines. It doesn't change my fuel mileage at all and based on the hundreds of responses I've seen on this forum most don't like it. What's the purpose of putting a feature that can only do harm to the engine? I don't get it.
And why put a TPMS feature on a truck that isn't reliable? My tire indicator light comes on when my tires have only fluctuated a couple of psi yet are still within the programmed range and are working fine (according to the dealer).
Ram isn't alone in doing stuff that makes no sense. All manufactures do it just some take it to another level.
I put MDS in the same cup with the "auto engine off" thing. It saves so little gas over the life of the engine, versus the damage it does to the engine. It goes hand in... FRICKEN BLEEP!MDS is likely motivated by an implied belief that the mileage will, somehow, get very high. That's myopic at the base level, physics wise. I mean, there is so much energy needed to hurtle a 5,000 + pound vehicle down the road, overcoming all considered laws of nature and physics regarding friction, wind resistance, etc.
Car companies have for a long time had Employee incentive schemes too. The employees were encouraged to give suggestions as to how to make the assembly process easier (hence cheaper) and also how to cut costs. I've seen lots of them for GMH. Somere were things like using 7 screws rather than 10 to hold the back board on buckets seats in place, the Change Notice card showed the 2c per vehicle saving. They employee would have gotten a $20 voucher or something like that. Other ones were like changes to the body to get to hard to get at body mounts that if one fell off its location during the body drop process it was a pain to re-insert it in place as you couldn't reverse the assembly line. So certain body sections were made removable rather than welded so that it could be done in seconds - saved maybe a 5min delay which had a cost associated with it. Most of these things would be practical changes rather than pretend fuel saving.This. Then you add in the corporate bean counters that pinch pennies on everything they possibly can on a vehicle. This is how you get the many little quirks and problems on a vehicle. And all car companies do it.
I worked for a big corporation for 15 years and from first hand experience, upper management caters to the share holders above all else. The sheer amount of time they invest to save pennies is astonishing.
Back to the @Bandit517 s example, a piece of felt tape placed in the right area could most likely prevent most squeaks on plastic trim. I guarantee some bean counter from finance told the engineers it wasn't necessary because it could save FCA/Stellantis 3 cents per vehicle.
Amen brother!!!I don't like the MDS at all. I get around it by hitting the tow button that bypass it. Only takes a second.