When is it time to keep it, or look at new ?

[yogibear18]

When nickels turn into multiple $100’s

 

[Justin33]

Hmm I guess I don’t put alot of miles on mine….I have 53k on my 14 express with no payment…obv I should just run errr.

 

[mikeru]

Hmm I guess I don’t put alot of miles on mine….I have 53k on my 14 express with no payment…obv I should just run errr.

We're on a similar pace with our 2020 Limited. Under 21k in the five years we've owned it. I can't say we'll have it in another five years but she still smells like a new truck inside. And no etorque crap LOL.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Dodge has yet to build anything worth upgrading to in the grocery getter 1/2 tons. Every year they keep making them worse... lol.

The only way to get something reliable these days is to build it yourself.

 

[HEMIMANN]

I don't feel so bad with 62k on my 2017, now. Thank you!

This said, it's clear Stellantis didn't like going out of business, so we'll see if Tim can pull an Iacocca out of his hat. He's on the right track, of course.

I would actually consider something if the price were reasonable. My RFE trans is ok so far as is my Hemi 6.4. Since it's too late for him to start over, I expect he won't be able to fix Hemi valve train issues, so not sure why I would buy until mine falls to pieces? Yeah the ZF 8 sp is nice (sans absurd oil change procedure), but still.

 

[Justin33]

We're on a similar pace with our 2020 Limited. Under 21k in the five years we've owned it. I can't say we'll have it in another five years but she still smells like a new truck inside. And no etorque crap LOL.

Right maybe I need to upgrade as I keep seeing hemi will be back. I’m not sure I can go to an inline with turbos after having this.

 

[Justin33]

I don't feel so bad with 62k on my 2017, now. Thank you!

This said, it's clear Stellantis didn't like going out of business, so we'll see if Tim can pull an Iacocca out of his hat. He's on the right track, of course.

I would actually consider something if the price were reasonable. My RFE trans is ok so far as is my Hemi 6.4. Since it's too late for him to start over, I expect he won't be able to fix Hemi valve train issues, so not sure why I would buy until mine falls to pieces? Yeah the ZF 8 sp is nice (sans absurd oil change procedure), but still.

That oil change part reminds me, when should one go about that? 60k or that ballpark.

 

[HEMIMANN]

That oil change part reminds me, when should one go about that? 60k or that ballpark.

If you have an RFE, I'd change every 35k with Red Line C+ ATF. You won't believe the smoother operation of it! If you haven't already, #1 priority is to get rid of that stupid trans oil cooler line thermostat!

 

[turkeybird56]

If you have an RFE, I'd change every 35k with Red Line C+ ATF. You won't believe the smoother operation of it! If you haven't already, #1 priority is to get rid of that stupid trans oil cooler line thermostat!

My thought on upgrading my 2019 would be 2026, if/when they go back to a Hemi and allegedly no more MDS and no E TQ. They come out with a 1500 or even 2500 no MDS, (no E TQ), I would be interested. They just bring back the 5.7 for the 1500 and same MDS BS, no sense changing as I already have a 5.7 and no E TQ either.

 

[Gemeni06]

I'd lean towards keeping the truck for the reasons others have said here. But in the end, you'll have to go with gut feeling. Here's the experience I had with my wife's Rodeo. It had about 80,000 miles on it. We kept up with all the required maintenance and it had no rust. My wife loved the Rodeo. It required new shocks and four new tires. No problem with that. But one of the CV joint seals was torn. I was told that in order to access the CV joint the entire front suspension of the vehicle had to be taken off and re-installed with a total labor of somewhere around eight hours. If this was done, I'd probably have both CV joints and their seals replaced. And I really didn't have a problem with that. But gut feeling told me not to trust the suspension being removed and re-installed without a problem. It had rusted bolts and other components. So I traded the vehicle in and got $1,000 for the vehicle on the trade-in. Right or wrong, I went with gut feeling on this.

On my wife's 2009 XTerra, I would probably seriously consider replacing the engine or transmission if either one went. But we are both retired and financially well off with pension, social security and 401-K. We could both go out tomorrow and each of us could purchase new $100,000 vehicles without a serious dent in our finances. But it is not in our nature to be wasteful. My wife is intending to keep her 2009 XTerra and I am intending on keeping my 2013 RAM until we either go into a nursing home or are dead. But with the Rodeo, we weren't as financially well off as we are now.

 

[HEMIMANN]

My thought on upgrading my 2019 would be 2026, if/when they go back to a Hemi and allegedly no more MDS and no E TQ. They come out with a 1500 or even 2500 no MDS, (no E TQ), I would be interested. They just bring back the 5.7 for the 1500 and same MDS BS, no sense changing as I already have a 5.7 and no E TQ either.

And no more 50% profit margins (Carlos).

 

[Justin33]

If you have an RFE, I'd change every 35k with Red Line C+ ATF. You won't believe the smoother operation of it! If you haven't already, #1 priority is to get rid of that stupid trans oil cooler line thermostat!

6speed ZF

 

[HEMIMANN]

6speed ZF

8 sp every 60k miles, or whatever that works out to in km

 

[Glen OS]

Bought my 15 in 2019 with 80k miles, now has 163k and runs great. My first repair was rear air springs last week. Have done all the maintenance. Plan on keeping this for a long time, will replace and engine before I buy a new truck. Don't want a payment and despise all the Driver Interference controls.

 

[Justin33]

8 sp every 60k miles, or whatever that works out to in km

I’ve read few articles on here that say the dealer will say it’s a lifetime. While I feel mine shifts ok I wouldn’t say butter smooth, but I also like to goose it.

 

[HEMIMANN]

I’ve read few articles on here that say the dealer will say it’s a lifetime. While I feel mine shifts ok I wouldn’t say butter smooth, but I also like to goose it.

Read ZF website. 60k

Ram marketing is false. Stated a number of times in here, also procedure.
Belay the Red Line advice. I believe most guys are using Valvoline MaxLife in ZF's with good results.

Red Line was too slippery, shifting was slow. Amsoil may be OK. Going off memory from years back. Search this thread for ZF.

 

[White six four]

allegedly no more MDS and no E TQ

Any real evidence of them getting away from both? I haven't been paying that much attention to the new news, but on another truck/suv forum I'm on for the wife's suv there's rumors of gm getting rid of afm. But again its all rumors as far as I can tell.

I'm not in the market and hopefully never will be for a newer computer box on wheels but here's my opinion. I kind of doubt they'll do away with any of their "gas saving" cylinder deactivation crap. There's still way too many people that believes it gives them better mpg. To me its sad the amount of people that buy a v8 truck and ask why their mpg isnt what its "supposed" to be and how can they get better mpg. Especially the people who have lifts and bigger tires. They (stellantis, gm) would also have to admit that this fuel saving system thats been used for what 20 years now also comes at the cost of having a less reliable engine.

I do really hope they get rid of mds though. The more crap you put on something the more problems you're going to have.

 

[turkeybird56]

Any real evidence of them getting away from both? I haven't been paying that much attention to the new news, but on another truck/suv forum I'm on for the wife's suv there's rumors of gm getting rid of afm. But again its all rumors as far as I can tell.

I'm not in the market and hopefully never will be for a newer computer box on wheels but here's my opinion. I kind of doubt they'll do away with any of their "gas saving" cylinder deactivation crap. There's still way too many people that believes it gives them better mpg. To me its sad the amount of people that buy a v8 truck and ask why their mpg isnt what its "supposed" to be and how can they get better mpg. Especially the people who have lifts and bigger tires. They (stellantis, gm) would also have to admit that this fuel saving system thats been used for what 20 years now also comes at the cost of having a less reliable engine.

I do really hope they get rid of mds though. The more crap you put on something the more problems you're going to have.

Been "reported" few places to include TK's garage. I personally will sit back and observe and see. There are big rumors on GM ref AFM because they are toasting engines real quick and are in a "pickle". We shall see.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Again, MDS doesn't kill Hemis. Poor oiling does, and VVT made it worse by moving the cam up further from the splash oil in addition to already high cam for Hemi outboard exhaust valve push rod.

GM messed up cylinders with too low tension rings so when piston oil nozzles squirted on cold deactivated cylinders they stuck rings ~ 40k miles or 70k miles and turned into an oil pumper. I had one. Pumped a quart per 1,000 miles, after pumping zero when new. Just outside of warranty!!! I researched, got pissed, went to Ram.

 

[turkeybird56]

Again, MDS doesn't kill Hemis. Poor oiling does, and VVT made it worse by moving the cam up further from the splash oil in addition to already high cam for Hemi outboard exhaust valve push rod.

GM messed up cylinders with too low tension rings so when piston oil nozzles squirted on cold deactivated cylinders they stuck rings ~ 40k miles or 70k miles and turned into an oil pumper. I had one. Pumped a quart per 1,000 miles, after pumping zero when new. Just outside of warranty!!! I researched, got pissed, went to Ram.

I would considering if turn off AFM. Consider Ford 150 V8 get rid of pod trans. Where RAM one ups better interior and excellent 8 speed tranny