2014 2500 Ram 6.7 going on 4th trans in 5 months? Dealer now tells me its tires?

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when they install the trans are they doing a quick learn afterwards?

Are you giving the truck some time afterwards and babying it a bit to relearn or are you balls to the wall afterwards?

What are the trans temps at?
 

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when they install the trans are they doing a quick learn afterwards?

Are you giving the truck some time afterwards and babying it a bit to relearn or are you balls to the wall afterwards?

What are the trans temps at?

After a relearn you should be stop and go no more than 30mph for 30 miles is what I’ve read.


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I would say no one does that on a 0 miles new truck. Also would not destroy the trans. There is more to this story.hard to reck that many in a couple months even if you were trying. Im starting to think pcm problem
 
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I would say no one does that on a 0 miles new truck. Also would not destroy the trans. There is more to this story.hard to reck that many in a couple months even if you were trying. Im starting to think pcm problem

Actually it would, look at the procedure for any delete tuning, billet valve body half, valve body, or new trans. They all say serious damage and failure will occur if the relearn process isn’t done.
 

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I would say no one does that on a 0 miles new truck. Also would not destroy the trans. There is more to this story.hard to reck that many in a couple months even if you were trying. Im starting to think pcm problem

Vehicles are run in on a dyno then the speedo is set to 0 miles, then driven off of the assembly line.

It’s more likely they’re not replacing all of the components. If they replaced the trans, converter, thermal bypass, and cooler and did a relearn there shouldn’t be any issues.
Most likely they aren’t replacing all of the components, which they should’ve done after 2 went bad in a row.


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Vehicles are run in on a dyno then the speedo is set to 0 miles, then driven off of the assembly line.

It’s more likely they’re not replacing all of the components. If they replaced the trans, converter, thermal bypass, and cooler and did a relearn there shouldn’t be any issues.
Most likely they aren’t replacing all of the components, which they should’ve done after 2 went bad in a row.


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Yep i agree. Where is the op with an update
 

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Actually it would, look at the procedure for any delete tuning, billet valve body half, valve body, or new trans. They all say serious damage and failure will occur if the relearn process isn’t done.
You think the dealer would do the first couple of drives then. If the customer is going thru trans's like that. You know we can't be trusted.
 

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You think the dealer would do the first couple of drives then. If the customer is going thru trans's like that. You know we can't be trusted.

I doubt the dealer is putting 100 miles on of varying speed and letting it run thru all the gears doing no more than 30% throttle.
 

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I doubt the dealer is putting 100 miles on of varying speed and letting it run thru all the gears doing no more than 30% throttle.
If it needed done you’d think the dealer would give specific instructions. I understand what you’re saying. But if the dealer ain’t smart enough to say hey we need to break it in then how would somebody know? I’ve never babies a new truck or car.
 

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I'd start by checking all around the truck to be sure there are no bowtie badges anywhere...But seriously, there is no way to eat that many transmissions in a short amount of time by having bigger tires...I would rather have a dealership just tell me they ain't gonna help me, rather then to tell me a tall tale...sad.
 

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I'd start by checking all around the truck to be sure there are no bowtie badges anywhere...But seriously, there is no way to eat that many transmissions in a short amount of time by having bigger tires...I would rather have a dealership just tell me they ain't gonna help me, rather then to tell me a tall tale...sad.

That’s what they do. They get corporate involved and corporate looks for ways out of the situation. Any mods is first thing they will point to.

Years ago I purchased a 88’ Toyota Supra with a smoked clutch, from a Toyota dealership. I got a decent deal due in part to the bad clutch. My boss, owned a few gas stations, went to out a clutch in it but when he started it it had rod knock.
So, we went to the BBB to try to get the dealership to replace the motor. Said dealership was sticking to me installing a neon license plate as their basis for voiding the warranty. We ended up settling out of court, but you get the point.


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If it needed done you’d think the dealer would give specific instructions. I understand what you’re saying. But if the dealer ain’t smart enough to say hey we need to break it in then how would somebody know? I’ve never babies a new truck or car.

My cousin had an ‘06 1500 that ended having the transfer case module replaced several times and the dealer couldn’t figure out why it have rough engagement.
I asked him if they were flashing the VIN into the module, he was told by the service dept it didn’t need it. They escalated it and had a Corporate Tech (or whatever is the exact title)come down, his 1st question was did you flash the VIN.

So no I wouldn’t put it past the service dept. for not doing, especially if trans replacing isn’t something they do on a regular basis.
 

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There are 2 different types of transmission "learning". One, like above that you would do with a tuner and have to drive at 30% blah blah blah, and the other is a "quick learn" that the dealer does with a Witech and doesn't require the driving portion.
Had the quick learn done on mine when my shift solenoid failed on a cross country trip towing. Dealer replaced the solenoid, I watched them do the quick learn procedure then hooked up my trailer and got back on the highway for 500 miles at highway speeds with no issues.


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Keep talking out your ass.


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While Im sure there are some dealers and/or techs out there doing it this way, there are probably plenty that DON'T take the time to do it the right way.

30 miles under 30% throttle? Stop and go? Basically an hour or two of driving. I cant see my dealers taking the time to do that, they would spend that time just looking for another truck to point out that "its normal".
 

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Keep talking out your ass.


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Wow did i hit your little girl nerve. No where in your info does it show you will loose 1 trans a month for not following this Procedure. Never did i say there wasn't one. What i did say is you would not loose 4 tran's in 5 months for not following it. I believe anyone on this forum that knows about our trucks and any Vehicle(and there are a lot of smart ones here)would agree that there is something more at play here. Sorry you are not one of those people. Sorry i hurt your feelings. None of my post accept this one was meant to **** anyone off.
 
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There are 2 different types of transmission "learning". One, like above that you would do with a tuner and have to drive at 30% blah blah blah, and the other is a "quick learn" that the dealer does with a Witech and doesn't require the driving portion.
Had the quick learn done on mine when my shift solenoid failed on a cross country trip towing. Dealer replaced the solenoid, I watched them do the quick learn procedure then hooked up my trailer and got back on the highway for 500 miles at highway speeds with no issues.


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This is the truth^^^^. the 68rfe is also a constant learning transmission so it is always learning as needed!!! I agree the 30 percent blah blah is BS!!!! I did a "quick learn" on my truck the other day after having my Ring & pinion gears changed using alfaOBD. Have been driving it normally since!!!
 

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This is the truth^^^^. the 68rfe is also a constant learning transmission so it is always learning as needed!!! I agree the 30 percent blah blah is BS!!!! I did a "quick learn" on my truck the other day after having my Ring & pinion gears changed using alfaOBD. Have been driving it normally since!!!
Nice what gear did you go with how do you like it.
 
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