Bought a Ford!

[JHoward]

I wish many happy and carefree miles for the OP with his new Ford.

JHoward

 

[Lamarsh]

I just drove my brother's 2019 F150 Platinum for over a week (I have a 2020 Ram Rebel), and I have to say, despite the two trucks being in the same class, they couldn't be more different trucks. They handle COMPLETELY different. From turning radius to suspension and steering, just completely different. To me, the F150 drives more "boat like," with squishier steering and suspension. I hated it for the first day or two, but once I got used to it, I liked the truck a lot. The seats in the F150 are more comfy, and I think his turbo V6 is a bit faster than my 5.7L V8. Overall, I like my Ram better, but I think the F150 is a great truck.

If a new truck owner didn't at least test drive both, they'd be selling themselves short. They'd be selling themselves even shorter if they listened to anybody that claimed their brand was the best and the others suck.

 

[huntergreen]

Tidefan, hope you’ll come back with periodic updates.

 

[tidefan1967]

I just drove my brother's 2019 F150 Platinum for over a week (I have a 2020 Ram Rebel), and I have to say, despite the two trucks being in the same class, they couldn't be more different trucks. They handle COMPLETELY different. From turning radius to suspension and steering, just completely different. To me, the F150 drives more "boat like," with squishier steering and suspension. I hated it for the first day or two, but once I got used to it, I liked the truck a lot. The seats in the F150 are more comfy, and I think his turbo V6 is a bit faster than my 5.7L V8. Overall, I like my Ram better, but I think the F150 is a great truck.

If a new truck owner didn't at least test drive both, they'd be selling themselves short. They'd be selling themselves even shorter if they listened to anybody that claimed their brand was the best and the others suck.

I’ve actually owned all three brands at one point or another with my last three new trucks being Rams. Ride and drive wise the Ram(both DS and DT versions) is better no doubt but as I do with all new truck purchases it’s less about brand loyalty, cost or whatever than about getting a wild hair my a… and just doing something.

The YouTube video everyone is referring to is by Town and Country Ford. I actually did watch that video several weeks ago. I get the distinct impression most of those guys keep a vehicle a long time that’s why they mostly said 5.0 when asked. As I said before I was not particularly impressed with the 5.0 after driving the 3.5 eco-boost truck first. There was no comparison in the power between the two.

I also ran into Graygoose over on the F150 forum and it looks like he is enjoying his F150 so far. Of course like myself he does tend to trade cars pretty frequently so I wouldn’t put it past him to be back on Ramforum at some point…….

 

[tidefan1967]

Tidefan, hope you’ll come back with periodic updates.

I’m not going anywhere! Hell I haven’t owned a Ram since the middle of last year. I still like this forum a lot.

 

[gfh77665]

I'm reading you fine, and we are discussing on a discussion board. I get that.


"He can "ignore the naysayers", but can he ignore the actual Ford mechanics who would choose to avoid it?" is not an an attempt to convince anyone of anything? I don't think the communication difficulty is on my end.

No, it is not. You just said "you understand this is just a discussion", but you act like I have some kind of vested interest in what he does. (I don't even know who he is, so why would I even care?)

I am discussing the topic, and countering the person who is saying "ignore the naysayers", who is trying to discredit the actual Ford Techs. If he can say that, then I can certainly say 13 out of 15 Ford Techs choose something other than the 3.5.

That's how discussions work.

 

[huntergreen]

I live in Ford country and it seems to me the 3.5 eco boost has proven itself in recent years. I just find my Ram more comfortable. I still on occasion take some jabs about driving a Dodge. Lol

 

[tidefan1967]

I live in Ford country and it seems to me the 3.5 eco boost has proven itself in recent years. I just find my Ram more comfortable. I still on occasion take some jabs about driving a Dodge. Lol

Trust me if I had not been driving the ole GMC for the last 6 months I would have noticed a difference in the ride too. The ole GMC rode like a tank before I put a set of Michelin Defenders and Bilsteins on it and the F150 still rides noticeably better still.

 

[Docwagon1776]

I live in Ford country and it seems to me the 3.5 eco boost has proven itself in recent years. I just find my Ram more comfortable. I still on occasion take some jabs about driving a Dodge. Lol

I tease my Ford driving buddy all the time. That's just a guy thing to bust balls, but at the end of the day it's just a brand. Unless it's Jeep, then it's a religion. Or at least a cult.

 

[Wild one]

No, it is not. You just said "you understand this is just a discussion", but you act like I have some kind of vested interest in what he does. (I don't even know who he is, so why would I even care?)

I am discussing the topic, and countering the person who is saying "ignore the naysayers", who is trying to discredit the actual Ford Techs. If he can say that, then I can certainly say 13 out of 15 Ford Techs choose something other than the 3.5.

That's how discussions work

Just wanted to let you know,you make me laugh Have a good night and enjoy your "discussion"

 

[turkeybird56]

I have had both. 2010 Ford F150 4 X 4 with the 5.4 beast (wife's truck), and I had the ole 2001 F150, than a 2012 Ram, 2015 ED, 2019 1500 DT. A truck is a truck. As long as it does what U need, hey. Power for power, the F150 5.4 outrun-outpull the 5.7, but not comfort wise. Now the new Coyote 5.0's, they run decent, will run for a long time with good MX, but is a dog compared to the 5.7, But again I got a truck to do truck things, and get groceries, and tow trailers for hay, etc.,. I am not brand loyal, I get what I need and what works at the time. FYI: I have not driven a Eco-Boost, so to that I cannot relate.

ADDED: I can understand PPL getting a 150 to get away from the 5.7 and known cam/lifters issues. All goes down to MX, etc etc. Sometimes makes me think to go to a F150. But right now, prices and MSRP's are through the roof. But we all wait, boy gonna see trucks parked on Dealership Roofs, they won't know what to do with them all, IMHO...

 

[Docwagon1776]

No, it is not. You just said "you understand this is just a discussion", but you act like I have some kind of vested interest in what he does. (I don't even know who he is, so why would I even care?)

I am discussing the topic, and countering the person who is saying "ignore the naysayers", who is trying to discredit the actual Ford Techs. If he can say that, then I can certainly say 13 out of 15 Ford Techs choose something other than the 3.5.

That's how discussions work.

I'm not sure if your lips move when you read or what, but feel free to point out anything I said that discredits the techs. What I've repeatedly said is that they may not value the same things the OP values so the ratio of techs who pick one motor over another is not really indicative of what any given customer should pick. The tech who chose the 5.0 because it responds well to forced induction has a valid opinion and I'm sure he knows what he's talking about because the Coyote absolutely does. However if you aren't going to supercharge it, then why use his opinion as the basis of what motor to select?

To put this very simply: Without knowing what criteria they used to preferentially select the option they did of the 3, the mere fact they did is of very limited value. Perhaps the OP's values line up more closely with those techs who selected the 3.5 or even the 2.7.

 

[2012RAM1500RT]

I live in Ford country and it seems to me the 3.5 eco boost has proven itself in recent years. I just find my Ram more comfortable. I still on occasion take some jabs about driving a Dodge. Lol

I've taken those jabs for 46 years, my smile just keeps getting bigger. They'll get over it eventually. The biggest jabbers are the ones not sure what they like and keep switching trying to find something they like.

 

[Lamarsh]

I tease my Ford driving buddy all the time. That's just a guy thing to bust balls, but at the end of the day it's just a brand.

I live in Detroit, born and raised, and I'd bet brand bashing is more prevalent here than anywhere else, as most people you talk to (if they don't work at one of the Big 3) have a parent or close relative working for one of the Big 3. Arguments about brands even occur in elementary schools amongst children here.

One of the better jabs I've heard was when I got my most recent Ram (a 2020), I asked one of my co workers who drives an F150 if he wanted to come down and see my new truck, and he goes "nah I'll just check it out in the junk yard in a few years." Obviously it's unfounded, but I thought it was a clever joke. Here in Detroit, most of us just roll it off our shoulders and get good laughs out of it--because at the end of the day the true loyalty here is with American companies (drive a foreign truck, despite how well made they are, you'll really get poked at).

I’ve actually owned all three brands at one point or another with my last three new trucks being Rams. Ride and drive wise the Ram(both DS and DT versions) is better no doubt but as I do with all new truck purchases it’s less about brand loyalty, cost or whatever than about getting a wild hair my a… and just doing something.

One thing I've noticed over the many years is after 5-7 years goes by, the trucks change so much, suppliers change, you can't necessarily pick one brand over 10-15 years and rightfully be able to claim it is objectively the best truck. Some years are just bad for one brand, and vice versa. Some years one brand has a break through and takes a leap in design and technology, and it goes on and on.

 

[Docwagon1776]

One of the better jabs I've heard was when I got my most recent Ram (a 2020), I asked one of my co workers who drives an F150 if he wanted to come down and see my new truck, and he goes "nah I'll just check it out in the junk yard in a few years." Obviously it's unfounded, but I thought it was a clever joke.

I'll have to remember that one.

I've driven every domestic brand at some point, they all have pros and cons. Only time I've driven a foreign car was in a foreign land. I get the globalization and that domestics are foreign and foreigns are domestics in many ways, but the Asian and European vehicles just never really did it for me.

 

[turkeybird56]

I live in Detroit, born and raised, and I'd bet brand bashing is more prevalent here than anywhere else, as most people you talk to (if they don't work at one of the Big 3) have a parent or close relative working for one of the Big 3. Arguments about brands even occur in elementary schools amongst children here.

One of the better jabs I've heard was when I got my most recent Ram (a 2020), I asked one of my co workers who drives an F150 if he wanted to come down and see my new truck, and he goes "nah I'll just check it out in the junk yard in a few years." Obviously it's unfounded, but I thought it was a clever joke. Here in Detroit, most of us just roll it off our shoulders and get good laughs out of it--because at the end of the day the true loyalty here is with American companies (drive a foreign truck, despite how well made they are, you'll really get poked at).



One thing I've noticed over the many years is after 5-7 years goes by, the trucks change so much, suppliers change, you can't necessarily pick one brand over 10-15 years and rightfully be able to claim it is objectively the best truck. Some years are just bad for one brand, and vice versa. Some years one brand has a break through and takes a leap in design and technology, and it goes on and on.

Very true. THE BEST TRUCK is the one currently in your driveway, that you drive and enjoy and takes care of business. I just happen to currently had RAM's last 3 trucks, but my wife had a 2010 F 150 4 X 4 with the Triton 5.4 (I bought off the lot the 1st week they were out in 2009). MY 19 RAM rides smoother than the 5.4 Ford but that Triton outpull the RAM ne day. My wife passed bunch of years now, but I sold the truck to her son who has it in Wisconsin, with like 48K on the Odometer (he keeps it in garage in winter). No matter what U have, drive it and maintain it and enjoy it. All IMHO.....

 

[turkeybird56]

I'll have to remember that one.

I've driven every domestic brand at some point, they all have pros and cons. Only time I've driven a foreign car was in a foreign land. I get the globalization and that domestics are foreign and foreigns are domestics in many ways, but the Asian and European vehicles just never really did it for me.

Drove a lot of "other" stuff in Germany, the ole hand me downs from Military to Military. Have had European: Opels // VW // BMW // Mercedes. The best running was a 74 Opel GS 2.8, but the heartiest was the 74 Mercedes with the 2.8 S dual carburetor. That thing ran like scalded ape, but at 5,500 lbs, burn up yer fuel coupons quick and have to buy economy gas. Wish I could have brought that Monster here, but the $$$ U spend on gray market made it prohibitive, especially since I bought it for a whopping $1,200. I could go from Frankfurt to close to Ramstein (traffic not counted), in like 53 minutes, instead of 1 1/2 hours at 120 KPH (I stayed at 180 kph). But the fuel gauge drop faster than a RAM 3500 pulling 25,000 lbs, roflmao.

 

[gfh77665]

I'm not sure if your lips move when you read or what, but feel free to point out anything I said that discredits the techs. What I've repeatedly said is that they may not value the same things the OP values so the ratio of techs who pick one motor over another is not really indicative of what any given customer should pick. The tech who chose the 5.0 because it responds well to forced induction has a valid opinion and I'm sure he knows what he's talking about because the Coyote absolutely does. However if you aren't going to supercharge it, then why use his opinion as the basis of what motor to select?

To put this very simply: Without knowing what criteria they used to preferentially select the option they did of the 3, the mere fact they did is of very limited value. Perhaps the OP's values line up more closely with those techs who selected the 3.5 or even the 2.7.

We all have a brain, supposedly. So, lets try an exercise in "deductive reasoning", shall we?

The video has someone asking 15 Ford Mechanics what engine they would choose. I know this requires high intellect and a ton of deep thought, but lets try to deduce why would they be asking Ford Mechanics?

A) Ford Mechanics know a lot of great gourmet recipes and cooking tips OR
B) Ford Mechanics are the authorities on the latest advancements in neurosurgery OR
C) Ford Mechanics are architects who have great expertise in high rise office buildings OR
D) Ford Mechanics actually know what the best truck engine is as far as durability, reliability, and quality is concerned, since they are, indeed, Ford Mechanics.

I do have a brain, so, SHOCKINGLY, I believe the Ford Mechanics were surveyed because D) they know which F150 engines are best overall via real world experience, because they work on them and service them every...single...day.

Now, with that said, if someone wants to put their brain in neutral and dig in their heels, they can find some desperate way to spin the discussion in some ridiculous manner. If someone wants to they can parse words, spin words, and use tortured logic to claim something so simple means something different that common sense would clearly dictate, then so be it.

I have read everything here from maybe its a "different criteria" or "different value" to even (OMG) "pineapple pizza" trying to spin and devalue the choice 13 of 15 Ford Mechanics who would choose the 5.0 (or 2.7) over the 3.5.

I tire of this willful ignorance. The 5.0 is clearly the Ford Mechanics first choice, and the 3.5 is clearly their last choice, because generally they know the 5.0 is THE BEST. If that's too hard for some here to understand, then Ford F150 engine selection is the least of their problems.

 

[Wild one]

We all have a brain, supposedly. So, lets try an exercise in "deductive reasoning", shall we?

The video has someone asking 15 Ford Mechanics what engine they would choose. I know this requires high intellect and a ton of deep thought, but lets try to deduce why would they be asking Ford Mechanics?

A) Ford Mechanics know a lot of great gourmet recipes and cooking tips OR
B) Ford Mechanics are the authorities on the latest advancements in neurosurgery OR
C) Ford Mechanics are architects who have great expertise in high rise office buildings OR
D) Ford Mechanics actually know what the best truck engine is as far as durability, reliability, and quality is concerned, since they are, indeed, Ford Mechanics.

I do have a brain, so, SHOCKINGLY, I believe the Ford Mechanics were surveyed because D) they know which F150 engines are best overall via real world experience, because they work on them and service them every...single...day.

Now, with that said, if someone wants to put their brain in neutral and dig in their heels, they can find some desperate way to spin the discussion in some ridiculous manner. If someone wants to they can parse words, spin words, and use tortured logic to claim something so simple means something different that common sense would clearly dictate, then so be it.

I have read everything here from maybe its a "different criteria" or "different value" to even (OMG) "pineapple pizza" trying to spin and devalue the choice 13 of 15 Ford Mechanics who would choose the 5.0 (or 2.7) over the 3.5.

I tire of this willful ignorance. The 5.0 is clearly the Ford Mechanics first choice, and the 3.5 is clearly their last choice, because generally they know the 5.0 is THE BEST. If that's too hard for some here to understand, then Ford F150 engine selection is the least of their problems.

You know you're getting very boring to listen to don't you.Why don't you give it up.The OP bought himself a new to him truck,and appears to like it,and all you can do is bash his purchase.Why don't you find a poll by Chrysler tech's on how much they like the 3.6 you have

 

[Docwagon1776]

You know you're getting very boring to listen to don't you.Why don't you give it up.The OP bought himself a new to him truck,and appears to like it,and all you can do is bash his purchase.Why don't you find a poll by Chrysler tech's on how much they like the 3.6 you have

Let's let him have the final word, poor little fellow can't figure out that 'best' is subjective and what's 'best' for one person's needs may not be 'best' for someone else. Like why anyone would pick a V6 when a hemi was available...