Just put a deposit on a '19 Laramie, but have a concern...

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I would hold out for 3.92 and an LSD

I don’t want a 3.92 as I don’t tow, sow the 3.21 is fine for me. After seeing some of the feedback I’m less concerned over then open diff.


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No disrespect meant, but why spend big money on a 2019 Laramie 4x2 truck and a 3.21? I've never understood this target market.

Why not just get an SUV? You aren't towing or hauling and you aren't needing a truck for any 4x4 conditions. Just get an SUV with a hitch and a toy trailer. What are you going to seriously put in a 5'7 bed that won't fit in an SUV?
 
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It’s a 4x4, not 4x2. And honestly it’s mostly for the space in the cab.


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No disrespect meant, but why spend big money on a 2019 Laramie 4x2 truck and a 3.21? I've never understood this target market.

Why not just get an SUV? You aren't towing or hauling and you aren't needing a truck for any 4x4 conditions. Just get an SUV with a hitch and a toy trailer. What are you going to seriously put in a 5'7 bed that won't fit in an SUV?

Trucks are way more versatile than SUVs. Hauling gargbage/recycling, or wood, or gas cans, or a deer carcass is way more practical with a pickup vs an SUV.
 

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I have 3.92 gears with anti-spin. With my KO2's, it's a beast in the snow. I tow a fair bit, so 3.21 gears were not an option. Plus, 3.92 gears make the truck feel like it's got a little more get up and go.

I did make a few concessions though when I ran across the right deal. I really wanted tow mirrors and heated seats but the Big Horn on the lot the dealer wanted to unload did not have those options. For a good deal, I can live without almost anything!

That being said, maybe you should hold out for a Jeep Gladiator : ) Anybody else wanna trade in for one?
 

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Trucks are way more versatile than SUVs. Hauling gargbage/recycling, or wood, or gas cans, or a deer carcass is way more practical with a pickup vs an SUV.

I get that. I just don't get dropping $40k-$50k for a vehicle limited in so many applications. If I'm dropping $50k on a truck, I don't want to have to worry about mud, snow or off-road inclines. Definitely don't want to get caught in a Nor Cal forest fire in a 4x2 either.
 

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I don’t want a 3.92 as I don’t tow, sow the 3.21 is fine for me. After seeing some of the feedback I’m less concerned over then open diff.


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If you ever plan on a level kit or lift with bigger tires you'll wish you had the 3.92's
 
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I don’t plan on either of those things so
I’m probably ok. After some research I realize I could put an Eaton lsd in if I want. Might do that and it will still cost me only 1/3 of the money I saved.


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Well, this is what is in my truck, off the build sheet. The LSD, AntiSPin, etc, seems basically the same to me,. Guess my senility showing and my noneducation of the drive train is coming out:

8-Spd Auto 8HP75 Trans (Buy-US)
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If you ever plan on a level kit or lift with bigger tires you'll wish you had the 3.92's
I've had 2 previous rams with 3.21s, lifts and 35s AND towed all over the country. Now my 19 is the 3rd. They are fine. And, uve one with 3.92s so do know how they compare
 

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I've had 2 previous rams with 3.21s, lifts and 35s AND towed all over the country. Now my 19 is the 3rd. They are fine. And, uve one with 3.92s so do know how they compare

I wouldn’t own a 1500 Ram without the 3.92/LSD in 2wd or 4wd, why opt for less
 

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I have 3.92 gears with anti-spin. With my KO2's, it's a beast in the snow. I tow a fair bit, so 3.21 gears were not an option. Plus, 3.92 gears make the truck feel like it's got a little more get up and go.

I did make a few concessions though when I ran across the right deal. I really wanted tow mirrors and heated seats but the Big Horn on the lot the dealer wanted to unload did not have those options. For a good deal, I can live without almost anything!

That being said, maybe you should hold out for a Jeep Gladiator : ) Anybody else wanna trade in for one?

If only you were closer to Pa I’d happily trade you my tow mirrors!
 

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I have had two Rams where I added the LSD after I purchased it. Never had one issue and the aftermarket versions seem to work better any way. I wanted the LSD for hauling my 23 foot day cruiser up slippery boat ramps. 4x4 works just fine but I felt safer with bit of redundancy. As others have said I actually prefer the open diff and auto 4wd with traction control, it is more effective at keeping you from sliding around. Both trucks after adding the LSD became Dukes of Hazard specials in the snow and rain, and while it looks cool and can be fun, it is probably not the most responsible way to drive you 40-50k truck. I have an open diff with 3.21s now. I haul my race car and atvs all over without issue. The Hemi has more than enough grunt infront of that 8 speed.
 

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2017 4x4 EcoD with 3.92 and LSD diff...running 35s...its a beast in the snow, just came back from an Elk hunt in 3 blizzards...4 Hi used pulling the 30 foot 7800lb trailer up a 1/2 mile 5% grade snow covered dirt road...perfectly...ran in 2 wheel with traction control off and LSD did its job wonderfully and love having it...
 

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Let me understand: You only got $4000 off "sticker" for a demo truck with 1600 miles on it?
No offense, but even with just 1600 miles on it, it's still a "used" truck isn't it?
Drive a new vehicle for 1600 miles and take it back to the dealer and see what they will give you for it (I'm guessing at least 30% off sticker). Just sayin'....

I personally like the limited slip diff., especially with how crappy the newer Ram transfer cases are.
I'm still flabbergasted that 4 wheel "lock" and even 4 wheel "low" are NOT 100% full-time 4WD!
You think they are? OK...
Stop the vehicle on a slippery/muddy hill, and then try and start going back up the hill again. At that moment, when the initial 4-wheel traction is the most important thing to get the truck going again, the rear tires will spin before the fronts even start to rotate and at that point, the front will probably spin a bit too, so initial traction is 100% lost on all 4 tires! This will require more throttle and spinning of the wheels to get the truck underway, which isn't always an option when space gets tight...
Completely idiotic...

My old 2008 Ram, when she was in 4 wheel mode, all 4 wheels turned all the time, so when you had to stop moving, initial/restart traction was not gone.
 
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No...I got an additional $4k off the discounted and promotional price. $14k off sticker.


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Does it have E locker?
If so I wouldn't worry about LSD.
 

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If your really worried add some weight to the rear. A good 600 pounds minimum in the bed will get you farther than a limited slip
 

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One of the advantages of having 4wd without LSD is that you spin the tires less. Now before everyone flames me, I do understand the concept of limited slip, but what I have found, is that when pulling out onto a road where you are making a turn, like taking a right hand turn as you're pulling out onto a major road, if you have an LSD, the inside tire wants to travel at the same rate as the outside tire, so the inside one ends up braking loose and spinning. This happens to me far more often in slippery conditions than going straight and having the LSD stop one tire that's starting to break loose. When that happens, just hit the 4wd auto button. BTW you cannto jsut quickly stab the button - you have to press and hold it for a second so it knows you didn't hit it accidentally.

I only have LSD on this one because it came with it and I got a good deal on the truck. If it didn't, my rear tires would have less wear on them than they do now. Good snow tires along with some weight in the back makes the truck a pretty good match for all of the snow in Buffalo that I've had to deal with. For a truck with 4wd, I'd easily go without the LSD.
 

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I just put a deposit on a 2019 Laramie today, but just realized it doesn't have an anti-spin differential. It's a great deal....dealer demo with 1600 miles and I got another $4000 off as a result, but just was looking through the options again and realized it has a 3.21 axle, which I want, but no anti-spin. Should I be seriously concerned here in the northeast? I'd be really upset to lose this truck, but don't want to make a huge mistake either. Thanks in advance for your help.
 
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