Fram ultra synthetic oil filter new style

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The srt filter was cut open recently by @Hemi395 , no wire mesh and hard media. Not sure if its any better at filtering, not sure id trust mopar with the crap I see them pull anyway.
Ill run rp next change, shoulda just stayed with it and bought multiple then trying all these different options.
Sorry but having dealt with the Royal Purple products I think they are way over rated, especially their oil filters! Any Mopar filter is quality as good - wire mesh or no.
 

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I know you are using the "better" Fram filter. The low priced one is definitely crap. I doubt I would trust an engine to a company that would produce such a poorly made product. Fram at one time had a good reputation- it's now a reputation for cutting every corner possible. There are many good filters on the market, watch a few videos where they take filters apart and see what's in them. Find a decent one and use it often. I personally buy Mopar, (available at Walmart), Wix, or Purolator. If cost is an issue use Walmart's Super-Tech (made by Champion). It tests good and appears to be decent quality.
 

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Oil threads always do. It's disappointing to hear the fram ultra has changed. That was a good filter and available at Walmart.

Wix XP is good, or at least it was a few years back. I'm running royal purple right now which seems just fine also. If you use any good quality oil and filter and your diligent about your maintenance, I believe that is most important. Beyond that it's all personal preference. Unless you have legit hemi valvetrain tick, then I'd strongly suggest you read @Burla oil threads. Just my .02.
 

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Hi everyone, I am new here from Ontario,Ca,my Ram is 2019,5.7 hemi classic with 8 speed tranny, I am using shell rotella full synthetic oil 5w20 with fram ultra synthetic oil filter xg10060 the last 2times,first 10 kms was the original dealer oil&filter,now I am.just about to hit 30.000km and so far so good,truck is smooth, quiet, no problems at all, one store put the fram oil filters on sale,so I bought 6 of them,then I finde out about the new change,no more metal mesh on the back for support and no synthetic media, but the label say the same info ,20 microns, still good for 20 000 miles,but I am not a 100% sure if this is the same quality filter,what is your toughs on this guys ,should I keep this filters or get rid off them?
 

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This looks like a great filter to me. Might give this a try .

Burla, any thoughts?
A top choice for sure, which ever clone you like RP/Amsoil EA or Wix xp/Napa platinum, top of the roost, just a matter of personal choice there. We know synthetic media lasts longer, and in fact will out last any oil, but the one thing the GM test proves if nothing else is that spun microglass will also filter better, which is what was new information at that time. We know puro boss is also top choice AFTER it's redesign. And we always need to stay on top of the information because it always changes. And the good ram forum member who recently found this info on fram ultra is a perfect example, I liked ultra and used them on our other vehicle, I'm done with it, they wont get my dollars anymore.
 

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I have almost 98,000mies on my 17 1500 5.7 I have used the Mopar filter and Pennzoil 5 / 20 changed oil every 6,000 or close to it. I use maybe 1/4 of a quart between changes. I wwill stay with what is working well for me. Besides as many miles as I drive (2,500 every month) its easy for me to swing into the dealer and get it done.
 

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Working well for me versus is it the best choice? And have you ever cut open a mopar filter at 6,000 miles and seen for yourself if the media was stiff or still filtering? Mopar filters are paper, it is very likely ever since the 2500 mile mark those filters are stiff and simply go into bypass, meaning you have zero filtration, just great flow. It's not an argument worth having, because if there was ever an engine fail it's not like someone loyal to something would say man those mopar filters let me down, they would blame the poor lifter design or something else.

If you actually looked at white paper and evidence, and cared about the result, i doubt you would be using Mopar filters, they are grossly inadequate for a long interval, and while I have not cut open one, I have cut open similar media filters even at 3k miles and they are toast, and that doesn't even consider how much better oil is filter with spun microglass. The sad news is fca knows this and had a spun microglass filter, then inexplicably decided to move back to paper for the srt filter. I doubt I would use Mopar glass cleaner to clean my windshield the way they do things.

with all respect
 

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I have almost 98,000mies on my 17 1500 5.7 I have used the Mopar filter and Pennzoil 5 / 20 changed oil every 6,000 or close to it. I use maybe 1/4 of a quart between changes. I wwill stay with what is working well for me. Besides as many miles as I drive (2,500 every month) its easy for me to swing into the dealer
Just my opinion, but it’s an old style filter built by the cheapest bidder. I stopped using them when I increased my oci from 3000 miles to six thousand miles.
 

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Oil Filter Media Type​

This is the part of the filter that does the cleaning. It looks like paper, but it can be actually made of cellulose, synthetic or a mix of both.

Synthetic​

This media can be made of nylon, polyester, or glass. They are more efficient because the fibers are smaller.
The fibers are crosshatched which allows for the finest particles to be filtered while still maintaining flow rates. Synthetic media can remove particles ranging from 20-40 microns.
Synthetic filters should be replaced every 5,000 to 7,000 miles. The only downside is they are more expensive.

Cellulose​

Most disposable media contain cellulose. It’s a plant-based material that’s inferior to synthetic media.
This filter can filter particles 8-10 microns in size. These filters should be checked or replaced every 3,000 miles. It performs better with heavy oils and keeps its form under high pressure.

Microglass​

This media is the most expensive. It is made of microglass. The mesh consists of fibers that are ten times finer than cellulose. They also have less restriction on the flow of motor oil. These filters need to be checked or replaced every 10,000 miles.

Final Thoughts​

Oil filters are an essential component of your vehicle. They help keep your oil flowing properly and prevent any major engine failure. Overall you can’t go wrong with any of the options listed. We’ve found synthetic media to be the best in terms of performance and you should look for filters that are rated for 5,000 to 10,000 miles.
 

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MoPar filters are made by Wix and Purolator to Chrysler specifications.
(for things like water retention.) I believe that they filter to the 5 micron range.
 

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Oil Filter Media Type​

This is the part of the filter that does the cleaning. It looks like paper, but it can be actually made of cellulose, synthetic or a mix of both.

Synthetic​

This media can be made of nylon, polyester, or glass. They are more efficient because the fibers are smaller.
The fibers are crosshatched which allows for the finest particles to be filtered while still maintaining flow rates. Synthetic media can remove particles ranging from 20-40 microns.
Synthetic filters should be replaced every 5,000 to 7,000 miles. The only downside is they are more expensive.

Cellulose​

Most disposable media contain cellulose. It’s a plant-based material that’s inferior to synthetic media.
This filter can filter particles 8-10 microns in size. These filters should be checked or replaced every 3,000 miles. It performs better with heavy oils and keeps its form under high pressure.

Microglass​

This media is the most expensive. It is made of microglass. The mesh consists of fibers that are ten times finer than cellulose. They also have less restriction on the flow of motor oil. These filters need to be checked or replaced every 10,000 miles.

Final Thoughts​

Oil filters are an essential component of your vehicle. They help keep your oil flowing properly and prevent any major engine failure. Overall you can’t go wrong with any of the options listed. We’ve found synthetic media to be the best in terms of performance and you should look for filters that are rated for 5,000 to 10,000 miles.

Not sure what this guy's criteria is, but I can state that his "thoughts" about paper / cellulose are wrong. The inconsistent fiber size and distribution allows the largest particle size of all media. Generally, the largest hole size is app. 30 microns, which means that is the limiting particle size - not "8-10 microns".

This from years working with Fleetguard (stratapore) and Donaldson (blue canister) filtration for many industrial engines, principally Cummins engines.
 

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Keep in mind guys. Oil pump is as is… increased filtering causes greater dP and reduces oil flow rate. You have no idea your flow once you go non OEM. But I assure you it is lower flow. I use OEM in all my cars and go synthetic oil. Change at 5k. Filter is important it so is flow rate.
 

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Not sure what this guy's criteria is, but I can state that his "thoughts" about paper / cellulose are wrong. The inconsistent fiber size and distribution allows the largest particle size of all media. Generally, the largest hole size is app. 30 microns, which means that is the limiting particle size - not "8-10 microns".

This from years working with Fleetguard (stratapore) and Donaldson (blue canister) filtration for many industrial engines, principally Cummins engines.
So these guys don't know s*** either

  • 99% particle removal that are 10 micron in size
  • 98% particle removal that are 7 micron in size
  • 95% particle removal that are 5 micron in size
 
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So what do you go by.......what are the real world facts......LoL

Oil filters are composed of membranes or media that decontaminate the motor oil as it flows through the system.


  1. Cellulose filter media: These are usually found in biodegradable oil filters. It can keep back particles as small as 8 to 10 microns in diameter and can purify 40% of the liquid oil. It needs to be changed after driving 3000 miles.

  2. Synthetic filter media: These are found in more top grade oil filters. It can purify 50% of impurities in the range of 20 to 40 microns and 24% of impurities in the range of 8 to 20 microns. This type of filter needs to be checked after driving 5000 to 7000 miles.

  3. Microglass filter media: These are highly delicate metal membrane or microglass found in best quality oil filters. The microglass network is composed of fibers that are ten times more lightweight than cellulose filter media. They prevent holding back the oil. They are high end filter media and thus needs to be changed only after 2 to 5 years.
 
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