Iron Outlaw
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- May 3, 2016
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- Hemi 6.4
I didn't know ford had stepped it up with their gasser. They will probably win. Sounds nice to have new stuff for the gasser crowd
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I don't get it. You have been shown where the 6.4 Ram performed better than the competitors in multiple different tests (that include towing) yet you continue to cherry pick that one single (arguably useless) test to fit your narrative and lick GMs nut bag. I have driven both and hauled with both. I'd take the Ram 20 out of 20 times over the GM. Be damned if it can't climb straight up a wall the fastest. Who cares? I'd wonder if it is a moral like the tortoise and the hair??? Is a car still being compared to a tractor. Is this about comparing an apple to an apple, a 3/4 ton to a 3/4 ton. This comparison just makes it sound like the 6.4 is far less capable, as it wears other hats but wears none of them well when compared to other 3/4 tons.
Then the problem is its capacity is over rated. Can't just point out that its the transmission when there's only one transmission for the 3/4 ton 6.4. Sounds like anything over the 10k capacity is too much weight for it then.
Call it being a troll or whatever but the fact is its not as capable as a 6.0.
South, if I wanted the fastest time 0-60 unloaded, I wouldn't buy a truck. The payload results is what the "only" towing test should have been according to the specs, pretty sad it can't compete with far less powered vehicles when put to the true test.
I don't get it. You have been shown where the 6.4 Ram performed better than the competitors in multiple different tests (that include towing)
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Call it being a troll or whatever but the fact is its not as capable as a 6.0.
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I didn't know ford had stepped it up with their gasser. They will probably win. Sounds nice to have new stuff for the gasser crowd
I am not a Ford Basher but I would hope they stepped up their suspension as well. I have heard many owners & witnessed them going down the road with not much load & having the squats!
They have really stepped up their look. The F150 looks better than it has in decades.
The 2017 SD that I have seen all look very high in the back. Maybe they did address the sag issues of the previous Generation. The sag is very noticeable out here in the Bakken and immediately took the SD of the list when I was looking for a SD/HD in 2015. I wonder how the aluminum body panels will handle the rigors of oil field/country roads. While lighter, it is more prone to stress cracks and I wonder about mounting points lasting.
I still don't trust the PSD.
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From a looks stand point that I saw when I test drove a 2017 is they are the same. 3 leaf springs and if you get the snow plow pkg or camper pkg you get an overload spring. I suspect they made up for squat in the ways of a spacer. I also am with you on the PSD. This generation seems to be giving good results but for how long? It looks to be the most complicated yet. If I were to get a diesel which may or may not be in the cards if my hemi disappoints on my Tennessee trip it will be a cummins most likely. Chevy also seemed to have a winner with the latest duramax but that is all new too now. I wish they would just perfect them and let the aftermarket crank out the power. How much more do people really need? I think now they are at the cutoff between reliability and fuel mileage payoff.
#iketimesmatterBut, but,but the Cummins was beat on the IKE test by a diesel with over a 100 less ftlbs!!! (;
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I see Danno is still trying to make people as miserable as he is and drinking his kool-aid.
Danno, please read post #30 again, and again until you understand that it wasn't the 6.0L that allowed the GM truck to have a better time up the Ike, it was the transmission in the Ram going into 2nd gear mode. The engine had plenty of power to pull the weight at a faster speed than the GM which is evident by the fact that the Ram had the fastest speed up the Ike before the transmission programming forced it to stay in 2nd gear. If the transmission did not go into limp mode, then the Ram would have beat the GM hands down, and that is a fact.
I like the 6.4 and the 2500 and hate to beat the dead horse, but you either need a more capable truck or consider a smaller TH. Some of us learned the hard way too.
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Don't like the fact a GM 6.0 beat the almighty 6.4
Tell us more.... how many model years did you end up going back to unload a 6.4??
I can also tell you as one of the very few people on this forum to encounter the gear hold "feature" I have lost more time to reading codes and shop visits with the Cummins than I ever did towing with the 6.4l. Numerous CEL related to DEF/Emissions and a poorly designed plastic y on the upper radiator hose meant I towed 350 miles home with my pressure cap loose at a reduced speed and I keep the code reader I bought 10yrs ago and used once before this Cummins in the door pocket. Not to mention the yearly fuel filter replacements and snaking the oil filter out a hole in the wheel liner.
...but boy does it pull the passes a minute or two faster.
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