2018, or 2019?

[Cazadores]

Hi everyone,

I've been lurking around here for a bit and finally decided to join in! I have had a few Dodges in the past, a '69 383, an '06 Laramie quad cab, even a RamCharger for a bit.

Anyway, I have been kicking around the idea of a new Power Wagon to get back in the truck world and I know the differences between he 18 and 19s, but is it really worth the price jump? It's looking like I can get a nicely equipped 18 between 7-10k less than a similarly equipped 19. I know in the end it's a totally personal choice, but in the experience of those on this forum, are the new features, Zeon winch, new transmission, vibration dampening, cameras, are they really that significant? Do they really make life that much better day to day?

Thanks, I know it's probably a stupid, impossible to answer question, but I figured I'd give it a try.

 

[olyelr]

I would pay dearly to throw my 6 speed in the trash for the 8 speed.

 

[56PW17]

I would get the 19. I have a 17. Looking to trade it if the price is right

 

[Reuben]

It’s worth it just for the 8 speed. Now that’s not to say the 18 isn’t a great truck. If 7-8 grand is too much there really isn’t much difference. The rest is fluff.

 

[Odin]

I know some of y'all love that 8 speed, but I'll stick with my 6 speed and column control. Something about an electronic turn dial for shifting is an absolute no go for me. Electronics have this funny habit of sometimes not working. Now if they had it with the column shift I might consider a trade, but probably not.

As for the winch, sure the Zeon has a few new features but changing to synthetic rope and going with a hawse fairlead and some Factory 55 hardware isn't that expensive to do.

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before our local guys, Grim and Deer Guy, can make it so you could outfit a camera system on the 18s like what the 19s have. All in all, depending on cost, I don't see the extra 7-10k more being worth it for me personally.

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[popcenator]

The "6 speeds" have a funny way of not working too. I'll take an 8 speed any day over the "6 speed".

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[22hemi13]

I drove a new one with the 8spd. Man it’s friggin awesome!!! I’d switch just for that alone never mind the new interior is much nicer. In fact we looked very hard at switching think I’ll wait..... just because it makes sense. But yeah if I was looking to buy no way I’d even look and the 2018

 

[Odin]

The "6 speeds" have a funny way of not working too. I'll take an 8 speed any day over the "6 speed".

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Hmmm... Never had an issue with mine. Not once.

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[popcenator]

Hmmm... Never had an issue with mine. Not once.

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And there are many 8 speeds with no issues as well.

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[Odin]

And there are many 8 speeds with no issues as well.

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Correct. Maybe you didn't understand what I'm talking about. I never said the transmission was not good. I'm talking about the electronic shift dial which RAM has had issues with in the past. A column shift is more reliable which is why it's been a standard in anything other than a car for how long?

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[popcenator]

I'm pretty sure the 8 speed is standard in many FCA products. The only issue I've seen is it disengaging from park. I've never seen an issue where it just didn't work.. Again, a the 8 speed is by far the better transmission. The 6 speed isn't even really a speed.

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[Odin]

I'm pretty sure the 8 speed is standard in many FCA products. The only issue I've seen is it disengaging from park. I've never seen an issue where it just didn't work.. Again, a the 8 speed is by far the better transmission. The 6 speed isn't even really a speed.

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Again, you're not understanding what I'm saying. You seem to be focusing on the fact I'm dissing the transmission itself. I'm not. I'm talking about the shift function. Not the transmission. The shift function. Column vs dial. Electric vs non-electric. Reliable backed by decades of use vs still determined because it's only been in production a short time. I'm not gonna argue which transmission is superior. I'm well aware an 8 speed itself is better. My comment had to due, once again, with the shift function.

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[popcenator]

Lol I think you're not completely reading what I'm saying. There's only been one issue with the electronic dial shifter as I mentioned. Guess what, the 6 speed shifter had issues shifting from park at one time. I know, I've read many with the issue, and I myself experienced the issue. So the 8 speed may be electronic, but it's no less reliable than the 6 speed console shifter.

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[popcenator]

If you want to choose an inferior transmission based on an assumed problem, that's you're right to, and I respect that, but your initial post was a tad condescending.

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[3TV]

I looked at a '18 and a '19 when I bought mine. The '19 was $13K more money, and I absolutely did not like that dial shifter. Whose dumb idea was that anyway? It looks like you're driving a 1970s Grand Torino, or something like it. That was a big turn off for me. I've owned a six speed before in a '16 Power Wagon, and owned an eight speed in a different FCA vehicle. The eight speed feels better driving it, but not $13K better, and I never had a problem with my six speed before. So I saved myself $13K, and this truck is all I need.

 

[Odin]

If you want to choose an inferior transmission based on an assumed problem, that's you're right to, and I respect that, but your initial post was a tad condescending.

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No, it wasn't condescending. YOU took offense to it. Nowhere was I condescending. I simply stated I know some of y'all love that 8 speed but I'll keep my 6 speed and column shift. I clearly went on to say if they made it in column shift then I'd consider getting it. How in anyway, shape, or form is that condescending? It's well documented here people love the 8 speed transmission. Again, YOU took offense to it.

Then, throughout our conversation I've continually tried to redirect it to talking about the shifter, not the transmission which you seem to think I'm talking **** about. I love the 8 speed, it's a great transmission. Which is why I said, again, I I'd consider getting it if it was column shift. But you focused on the transmission.

And yes, have ppl had issues shifting out of park, they did. But FCA has had issues across all vehicles equipped with the electronic dial shift. I'm simply saying electronics have a strong tendency to fail where as the column shift has withstood the test of time. Why fix something that isn't broke for the simple fact of its "cool".

Now, can we stop derailing this guy's threat because of YOUR assumptions about how I hate the 8 speed when I never, at anytime, made that statement. Or are we gonna continue going round Robin?

BTW, yes, parts of this post are condescending. Just to be clear

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[popcenator]

No point in arguing with someone who states that it ain't broken, then admits to issues with what ain't broken. Point proven.

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[Odin]

No point in arguing with someone who states that it ain't broken, then admits to issues with what ain't broken. Point proven.

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Yup, you win

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[popcenator]

Yup, you win

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Let's just call it a draw. [emoji3577]

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[Odin]

Let's just call it a draw. [emoji3577]

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I'll accept that. Does this mean we can be friends??? [emoji3]

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