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[Udy2554]

I miss my Toyota’s!!


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Me too...

 

[Buzz]

General ATX3 315/70R/17 walkin the dog in the snow. No clearance problem, well maybe if you turn to tight. Little rub on the tube. Not rippin the tires up anyways.

What ever you use, please do not over load tires. I spent a few more $$$ got the Load E. Why have 2500 that can really only carry 1500 weights.

 

[JDA-PW2018]

I have 35 12.5 x 17 Ridge Grapplers on mine. They have been dramatically better than the stock wrangers. Generally no rubbing issues. It does rub against the left side arm bolt if I'm in full lock to the left. But I just avoid that. Full lock right or in reverse does not rub interestingly enough.

Agree these look like the proper size and should be stock. Though my already crappy MPG got hit 1-2 MPG. Worth it though if you go off road (which why would you have a PW if you don't). Much more capable tires. Climbs anything I've tried.

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[Grand Mesa]

Both the Nitto Ridge Grapplers and the General ATX3 are excellent 2 ply sidewall carcass tires.

Within the Western States though a 3 ply sidewall tire carcass under the heavier weight of the Ram 2500 Power Wagon adds a layer of extra protection against an off road sharp rock sidewall puncture. Even a 2 ply tire with Kevlar adds a higher margin of off road puncture protection than 2 plies of polyester.

 

[Lucy Girl]

Hope you don’t mind losing a lot of HP with 35’s.

 

[56PW17]

Hope you don’t mind losing a lot of HP with 35’s.

A lot? How much?

 

[BevisIII]

HP is still the same.

 

[22hemi13]

Man I went from factory sized tires. Added a 3” lift and went to 35’s on 17” rims and I have a 5.7 in my 2500...... it didn’t make a huge change. I feel it but it’s not like the thing won’t move. Heck these trucks aren’t winning any races anayways

 

[IRSmart]

Hope you don’t mind losing a lot of HP with 35’s.

I hope you don’t mind entering a discussion you’re clearly not equipped for, because horsepower doesn’t take a hit whatsoever with larger tires. You could put 40’s on and the power the truck makes at the wheels is exactly the same.

 

[Meister]

 

[Grand Mesa]

It all depends on how horsepower is measured. All comments above are therefore accurate. There's BHP (gross), HP (net), and WHP.

Larger tires tires will negatively impact the wheel horsepower (WHP) without any gear ratio changes. Fortunately the Power Wagon comes with a factory 4.10 to 1 gear ratio and 410 HP (net).

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2013/08/13/horsepower

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the-difference-between-bhp-and-whp-explained/

https://www.carsdirect.com/car-maintenance/net-horsepower-vs-gross-definition-and-ratings-guide

https://www.hotcars.com/big-tires-change-wheel-horsepower/

 

[olyelr]

The motor will still put out the same horse power (bhp), but the actual horse power to the ground (whp) is going to diminish with larger/heavier tires. I would guess changing the gearing would greatly help at preventing this.

 

[Lucy Girl]

I hope you don’t mind entering a discussion you’re clearly not equipped for, because horsepower doesn’t take a hit whatsoever with larger tires. You could put 40’s on and the power the truck makes at the wheels is exactly the same.

You know man you are absolutely right. You will still have the same HP at the rear end. I guess I had a brain, well you know. What I should have said is that I will see you in my rear window at the end of the 1/4 mile. Don’t get me wrong I love big wheels and the way they look also. I just know that it takes a lot of power to move 35’s instead of moving my 17’s and therefore my truck will be slower overall with the 35’s. Thanks for correcting my post but for someone like me that will do nothing to slow my truck down even 10 feet at the end of the 1/4 mile I just won’t do it. Love your wheels but I have to keep my 17’s. And on that note I think you know now that I will always enter a discussion even when I am wrong or right. I was part wrong and part right.

 

[Grand Mesa]

WHP (wheel horsepower) is the real world measure of horsepower. Most of use our pickup engines to turn the tires on the road/ground.

https://jalopnik.com/the-way-we-talk-about-horsepower-makes-no-sense-but-luc-1832327536

 

[IRSmart]

You know man you are absolutely right. You will still have the same HP at the rear end. I guess I had a brain, well you know. What I should have said is that I will see you in my rear window at the end of the 1/4 mile. Don’t get me wrong I love big wheels and the way they look also. I just know that it takes a lot of power to move 35’s instead of moving my 17’s and therefore my truck will be slower overall with the 35’s. Thanks for correcting my post but for someone like me that will do nothing to slow my truck down even 10 feet at the end of the 1/4 mile I just won’t do it. Love your wheels but I have to keep my 17’s. And on that note I think you know now that I will always enter a discussion even when I am wrong or right. I was part wrong and part right.

You continue to be horribly incorrect. Since you have no issue entering into a conversation you are ill-equipped to handle, welcome. Grab a seat, this could take a minute

1) Horsepower isn’t affected by tire size. Not a little bit. Not a smidge. Not at all. TORQUE is affected by tire size, and that is what affects acceleration, not horsepower.

2) You assume that anyone who buys a power wagon gives a flying rat’s ass about the quarter mile. Sorry to ruin your day Vin Diesel, but guys that buy their power wagons typically prefer to go anywhere, not go fast. The minuscule difference in torque at the wheels is preferential to the added ground clearance that aids when these trucks do what they do best: tear up trails.

3) You repeatedly use 17” and 35” interchangeably in your post. 17” is your rim size, which is neither a part of the discussion, relevant to the discussion, nor a factor whatsoever. 35” is the tire size, which is the matter at hand. Most people in this thread are keeping the rim size at 17” and increasing their TIRE size (not their rim size) to a 35” tire. And coming from a 33” tire, it’s not even that extreme of a change.

So look at us in your rear view mirror as you blow from red light to red light. We don’t care, most of us are past that juvenile stage in our lives and have moved on to exploring. We’ll just smile and sit back and look at the sights, while your excitement is typically over in about 13 seconds. Have a wonderful day.

 

[Lucy Girl]

Different strokes for different folks. I live in the woods and love every day here with Deer, hogs, Black Panthers and Wolves. Thanks for the reply and have a great day.

 

[Grand Mesa]

Deer, mountain lion, and coyote here on my acreage. Just took this photo of my old Border Collie and of my Power Wagon parked next to the pole barn. The reality is that the snow here has stayed put for nearly 6 months this winter (end of summer, Fall, Winter, early Spring) season. A 35" tire has to be both great in snow, with a tough 3 ply for our volcanic rocks and sharp granite, Load Range E, and good in bentonite mud. Cooper ST Maxx makes a 315 70R17 that's studdable, but it's a Load Range D. I'll stick with my 34" ST Maxx until I find something better in a 35" for our long winter seasons.

 

[22hemi13]

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Deer, mountain lion, and coyote here on my acreage. Just took this photo of my old.Border Collie and of my Power Wagon parked next to the pole barn. The reality is that the snow here has stayed put for nearly 6 months this winter (end of summer, Fall, Winter, early Spring) season. A 35" tire has to be both great in snow, with a tough 3 ply for our volcanic rocks and sharp granite, Load Range E, and good in bentonite mud. Cooper ST Maxx makes a 315 70R17 that's studdable, but it's a Load Range D. I'll stick with my 34" ST Maxx until I find something better in a 35" for our long winter seasons.

Snow sure is pretty. I’m glad I can drive to it and don’t have to live in it lol.

 

[Lucy Girl]

Snow sure is pretty. I’m glad I can drive to it and don’t have to live in it lol.

No snow here. We don’t believe in it. Sad for the folks that can’t get out with any tire.

 

[Lucy Girl]

Did everyone watch the Jeep race?? I hope so.