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You know now the that I think about it I never noticed shutters on my warlock. Good lol.Not every trim level had them, Tradesmans didn't typically come with the shutters for example.
There are two issues at play. The average parts guy today can't find his own butt without the last 8 letters of the vin. The days of expert and highly proficient parts department staff are long gone. If they can't do a computer search they are hooped.Kurek, the problem arises when the owner orders the part for his truck. When the owner provides his vin number for the parts department employee to order the part for his truck, no oil cooler will be listed.
Will the oil cooler you have listed on your second post work? It may very well will work. I do not disagree. However there is no oil cooler made for that engine or truck model the original poster owns.
Even if the owner orders the part, it will be unlikely the Chryler/ Ram dealer will install it for him. But, I guess it’s possible.
I have noticed in recent years, unless the part is ordered against a specific vin, the dealer is unlikely to install it.
I can only guess the reason might be recall issues or warranty issues. I am unsure, however.
Maybe you have some insight on this?
By the way Kurek, thanks for posting the SSV package. That package has some interesting specs.
Here‘s an interesting read I found about it.
Ram Looking At Adding A Pursuit Rated 1500 To The Mix?
While fleet models are usually frowned upon by the automotive press car companies still rely on fleet sales to help push profit. One of the most profitable fleet markets, is law enforcement. Law enforcement depends on automakers to create vehicles that are easy to upfit, inexpensive to maintain...moparinsiders.com
This kind of explains why it STILL has a mechanical fan in 2021.I have been following this thread and others like it for a while.
I have noticed the 5.7 hemi up until 2017 did not have an oil heater. 2017 and after does. Meaning the 2017 and after oil heater uses extremely hot water coming out of the forward part of the right head.
Even though it heats the oil, it also adds just a bit of cooling to the oil above a certain temperature. It can be seen on trucks 2016 vs 2017 that the oil runs a bit cooler. Sometimes people mistakenly thing it’s an oil cooler and it is not. It’s not made to cool oil, so it does a poor job at it.
A characteristic of engine oil is takes a while to transfer heat. Its molecular structure is much different than water, which transfers heat quickly.
The hemi’s engine block is cast iron. That means the property of cast iron, its also a very poor conductor of heat. Where aluminum is the opposite, it transfers heat quickly.
There is no hemi oil cooler available from Chrysler for the hemi.
So the hemi oil is continuously running warm Under many conditions.
No how does this relate to the AGS?
Because of the extremely poor oil cooling capability of the hemi, and the characteristics of poor heat transfer from cast iron blocks, removing the AGV brings engine coolant temperature lower to give the block and heads a better transfer of heat from the oil.
So to give you the readers digest condensed version, removing the AGV lowers the oil temperature via airflow and water coolant temperatures by heat exchange with the hotter oil.
So yes, for those people that tow a lot and get higher oil temperatures, it does indeed benefit the engine by removing AGVs.
You might want to go check to see if you even have them lol. Mine doesn't.I am loving the grill shutters here in northern Canada. My ‘20 PW warms up twice as fast as my ‘09 1500 did. People can complain all they want about the new stuff, but when it works, it works well. Progress is not made by driving a model t.
I'd be curious to see how much heat that would pull out of the oil,as that's the oil heater/cooler module.How much heat would hot coolent actually pull out of the oil when it's at full oil flow and operating temp,as the oil flowing through it,isn't really in contact with much of a heat exchanger for any length of time.That's a pretty small aluminium heat exchanger to really accomplish much in the way of cooling the oil,it's tiny even in comparision to the heat exchanger on the side of the 8 speed,so how efficient it'd be as cooler is the question.Somebody with-out the oil heater/cooler needs to do a test on how much this would actually drop the oil temps.Not gonna be me though,as my dual remote filters keep the oil temps in my truck where i like them.Sure there is, the police package had one from the factory.
https://www.mymoparparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-engine-oil-cooler-5037523ab
If you are seeing 250-275 towing, you have some other problems that I would be looking into.I personally don't mind the AGS, for the most part my truck appears to be well cooled. Like you I tow a trailer and that's where the problems start, guys have reported temps well over 250, in the neighborhood of 275 at times and that is not acceptable.
I'm probably going to go with an external oil cooler, leave everything from the factory "as is" and then the cooler would be thermostat controlled and only activate when temps start running above 240 or so.
I don't believe removing the shutters will do anything useful. The truck controls the temperature very well (for the most part) and it does its thing to get the temps up to operating as soon as possible, and then keeps it at that point. Only when towing do the temps seem to run away for a bit but at that point the shutters are already open wide, fans are on, but the truck can't shed the heat any faster. So I don't see how removing shutters (which are already open and "removed" from the equation) are going to help fix that problem. If they were remaining closed due to a bug, sure that might help, but they're already open, removing them won't make the truck cool down any quicker; we're just building more heat the truck can shed so we need bigger coolers or more of them. Using a thermostat so that the new coolers only activate when the temps are running out of control means that we won't interfere with the heating/cooling system when we don't need it and the truck can operate as designed for 99% of the time.
True!Dupont patent expiry. Everytime a new auto refrigerant is "developed" lol.
It's also an oil heater.The hose connections on it hook up to your heater hoses and it circulates coolant through the aluminium heat exchanger ,it doesn't circulate oil through the exchanger,just coolant.The oil only flows through the center port,that's the longer nipple you see sitting beside it,so the oil is not in contact with the exchanger for any length of time at full flow.Kursk, how much did it drop you oil temperature?
did it prevent the oil from being warmed up quickly or was there a bypass in it?
Kursk, how much did it drop you oil temperature?
did it prevent the oil from being warmed up quickly or was there a bypass in it?