Custom Bilstein 2/4 drop 2012 4x4 crew

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So I just got done with the drop kit on my 4x4 Crew cab Express. I had a really hard time finding parts to lower a 4x4 Dodge so I figured I'd post up how I did it to help anyone else trying to do the same.

First I called and looked everywhere for a 2/4 drop on 4x4 Dodges and I found nothing. All I found was a 2/3 from Groundforce for a 4x4. There's any drop you want for a 2wd though, lol but I live is a blizzard 4 months out of the year and need 4x4.

I have a friend that works at a 4x4 lift shop and he said, why don't you custom drop the front with Bilsteins and piece together the rear? I started looking into finding just a rear kit and Groundforce never called me back after I asked for a price on just the 3" rear kit. McGy's told me "We're not allowed to sell just the rear 4" kit', and it's for a 2wd anyways!

After going over everything with a friend at the Mopar dealer we found out 2wd trucks use almost all the same parts as the 4x4 for the rear suspensoin. Track bar and shocks being the 2 biggest ones.

So here's how I did it:

Stock travel front Bilsteins for a 4x4 1500 ram have the same measurements/travel as factory struts. Bilsteins also have a retaining/snap ring that allows you to raise the front up to 2.75" by moving the snap ring up and raising the pressure on the coil. I bought two Bilsteins and had a friend machine new retaining/snap ring groves lower than the OE stock setting (pics). I did one at 1.250" below stock and one .460 above the new lowest one (in case the 1.250" was to low). You can see in the pic the new groves are darker then the original ones. If Groundforce allows their drop to use the same spindle and strut then I should be good to go with CV angles with only going down 2", same concept just different way. If you do this front drop, DO NOT FORGET TO TRIM THE BUMP STOP on the Bilsteins! Lol

After getting the front squared away I ordered the McGy's #44052 eco drop kit for a 2wd. The kit came and I started with the rear just to make sure it all would fit before tearing down the front. The rear fit perfect and install went good. The instructions don't say you have to do anything with the factory bump stop brackets that are welded to the frame but I didn't like how little clearance there was so I cut out the bracket. There's still the pad for bump stops now, I just removed the holder and gained another 1" of travel.

The front went simple other that the strut nut on top was hella seized and a pain to get off. I started at the lowest grove we machined and figured I'd go up from there if it was too low. After getting the Bilsteins installed and the truck back together, it sits perfect, rides good and handles way better. This was a little more work than just ordering a 2/3 Groundforce kit and tossing it on, but I wanted more drop and I still did it way cheaper than a Groundforce kit, plus I have Bilsteins now! lol, I just have 2wd front coils to sell now...

I just finished this two days ago and all I have is dirty pics. Like I said, I live in a blizzard... The clean pic is before the drop, I just cut the rear coils to level it out. It looks 1000 better now, I just need to get it washed! haha

Let me know if you have any questions and I'll help as much as I can. Thanks for checking out the thread.
 

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Here's the rest of the pics... Those are the rear bump stops and holder/bracket I removed.
 

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I cant wait to do mine! my kit will be here on Monday so after all the crazy Christmas running around is done, ill get started on it buy the end of the week.

Do you have a dead on side profile pic in before and after stance?

jeff
 
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Not yet, the weather has be crazy. It's still snowing outside.... haha, I hate it. I will get some though! soon
 

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no problem, I'd love to see them.
I jumped the gun w/ my post and didnt realize you were still putting up pics .
I saw the first pic you posted of the truck and said to myself, bummer, I was hopping it would've came out lower. And now I see the rest of the pics w/ the real lowered side profile and ,,,,,yup,,,, it sure do look good :)

nice job!

jeff
 

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So all the work on the front was just to use Bilsteins with stock springs, correct? I was able to order just the front springs from GF and used the McG's rear kit. I'd been thinking about using a set of Bilsteins at stock height with the GF springs but I didn't know if they'd be happy being that short.
 
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So all the work on the front was just to use Bilsteins with stock springs, correct? I was able to order just the front springs from GF and used the McG's rear kit. I'd been thinking about using a set of Bilsteins at stock height with the GF springs but I didn't know if they'd be happy being that short.

Using the bilsteins was a cheaper way to drop the front with a better strut then stock. If you put the same bilsteins I used in the factory setting with your GF coils you should be just fine. The bilsteins and factory strut share the same length and travel.
 

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Custom 4x4 drop

Hey turbo, really cool creative 4x4 custom drop! I think ur truck looks sick! Thanks for sharing. I may not be reading ur thread correctly, but why did u cut rear coils if u already got econo drop kit?

What kinda wheels/ size are those?
 

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Bilsteins in the rear?

Did u custom machine bilsteins for the rear? Can u custom machine 2 more bilstein for rear 4" drop? If so, let me know how much? I want something better than th belltechs. Thanks
 
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Hey turbo, really cool creative 4x4 custom drop! I think ur truck looks sick! Thanks for sharing. I may not be reading ur thread correctly, but why did u cut rear coils if u already got econo drop kit?

What kinda wheels/ size are those?

Sorry for the confusion, the only clean pic I had of my truck was before the drop kit was installed. On the old setup I just cut the stock rear coils to level the truck out. I did not cut the drop coils, they sit very well already.

My wheels are KMC Slides, 22x9.5 with a +15mm offset.

Did u custom machine bilsteins for the rear? Can u custom machine 2 more bilstein for rear 4" drop? If so, let me know how much? I want something better than th belltechs. Thanks

The rear shocks on mine are stock. The McGy's 4" kit uses stock rear shocks. The rear drop relies on the coil for lowering. The shock in the rear doesn't hold any load/weight. Depending on what shocks you have, Bilstein should be able to match the travel your shock has. The front setup is like a coil-over, that's why I was able to machine and lower it with the Bilstein. Thanks
 

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Very interesting approach. Does the ride seem soft / spongy?
I'd think with less pre-load on the springs they'd feel funny.
(Notice I said 'think) Hence I ask.
 
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Very interesting approach. Does the ride seem soft / spongy?
I'd think with less pre-load on the springs they'd feel funny.
(Notice I said 'think) Hence I ask.

Not a problem, questions are good, lol. It really rides just as good or better, the handling I can tell is better, feels more stable in curves. I've always had lifted trucks and you can tell when they have Bilsteins cause the ride is so much better. I had an '03 Tahoe years back that I did a Beltech drop on and it rode good too, but chevy's are kinda a different animal. It had air ride and stuff.

But if you're asking if it bounces like an old Lincoln boat going down the road, then no. haha, it feels normal.
 

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What are your plans for the front coils from the McGaughy's kit? If you wanna sell them let me know.
 
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What are your plans for the front coils from the McGaughy's kit?

I need them gone, the forum won't let me post in the classifieds until I have 50 posts. Lol
 

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Where you located and how much you want for them?
 

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any word on an alignment yet?

do the front tires look tilted in or out at the tops? I just put the drop spindles on yesterday and they tilted the tops way out. its noticeable enough to make me wonder if theres even enough adjustment to correct it w/out adding more custom parts.

Jeff
 
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