Debating the switch to CTD

[RompinRam]

Is there stuff you guys recommend I can read so I can get as good of an understanding for diesels. I really would want to make sure I know my way around it all before I get into that world then. Ive been going through forums and such reading as much as possible lately but I was just wondering if theres anything else that would help alot.

 

[Cthulhu]

I don't know where most people learn about diesels... I learned in the Canadian Armoured Corps training... and a little in highschool mechanics class...

Diesels aren't all that different from a gas engine, in reality they are accomplishing the same thing... their method of combustion is different, granted.. but they still need fuel, oilchanges, etc... So... not really that different.

 

[Stangshcky12]

I honestly don't know where I learned about diesels. I don't nearly know everything but my freshmen engineerig seminar I wrote a paper about turbo diesels and it a 98% without doing research haha
Moparman has a website with lots of great information on it

 

[Mopar1973Man]

I honestly don't know where I learned about diesels. I don't nearly know everything but my freshmen engineerig seminar I wrote a paper about turbo diesels and it a 98% without doing research haha
Moparman has a website with lots of great information on it

(Where the THANK YOU button when you need it! - Thanks for the Comment!)

 

[RompinRam]

Mopar man, just started reading through your site. Looks like I got a lot to read up on hah. Thanks for all the help guys!


Tapatalk'in

 

[Stangshcky12]

(Where the THANK YOU button when you need it! - Thanks for the Comment!)

If I said I didn't use it Id be lying haha
I can't imagine the time you have spent on it

 

[Mopar1973Man]

Way too many hours...

But I'm always on the hunt for new information and procedures that save time and money... Heck I just spent another 8 hours today hunting through the template coding and updating certain bits of code to improve the site and its performance.

 

[ramhunter9]

Going from gas to diesel for me.. I had no idea on the diesel . But I will tell you I know more about them than gas now , and I was pretty darn good working on a Hemi but this CR is so self explanatory.

For me the diesel is much simpler and easier to work on and maintain / upgrade . More costly yes , but in the end the diesel will out last the gas .

So in a nut shell , if you know how to wrench on a gas truck the diesel will be much simpler . Trust me , they sound and look intimidating but rather simplified .

And if you need help I am just south of you .:********: and I also recommend www.mopar1973man.com great in depth info that you WILL NOT find on another forum ... that is why he is here on RF and a trusted friend of mine period !

 

[Mopar1973Man]

that is why he is here on RF and a trusted friend of mine period !

Ahh Schucks...

But Dave right diesel engine really are a very simple engine to deal with. Think about all the weird thing you got to deal with on a gasser. Ignition timing got to be just right, 02 Sensor has be working just right, spak plugs, wires, rotor, cap, etc... The list go on and on...

Diesel engine just sucks, squeeze, BOOM!, blow... That all... Everything is done with compression and fuel... No ignition system, on excessive amounts of sensors, no smog equiptment (till the Common Rail). The older it is the easier it is to tune and fix.

Dave and I got the best of both world we have all the elctronics for diagnostics and performance but still a very very simple engine to deal with. No EGR, No DPF, no extra junk...

 

[RompinRam]

Looks like its time to begin the search for a 98-01 ctd!


Tapatalk'in

 

[Stangshcky12]

looks like its time to begin the search for a 98-01 ctd!


Tapatalk'in

98-02!

 

[RompinRam]

Yeah woops that's what I meant. Time to find the rv hauler hah


Tapatalk'in

 

[Mopar1973Man]

Another good on to laugh about. For year VP44 injection pump became famous for failures and problem and being expensive to replace. Well people like myself figure out the magic to making a VP44 last a very long time. So if your to replace a VP44 right now its about $950 to $1,100 for a pump through some vendors I know.

Ok so now compare to the CR engine when the injectors start to fail it best to just replace them all since if 1 is failing then the other 5 are close behind. CR injectors are roughly $2,700 to $3,000 for a set of six. I can buy 3 injection pumps for the price of CR injectors.

But at least when a VP44 dies it just leaves you strainded on the highway. When CR injectors go it will wipe out the bottom end of the engine costing you at least a short block.

But in either case if you install a FASS or AirDog fuel system with 2-3 micron filters. Then on the CR's use 200:1 ratio of 2 cycle oil and on the VP44 128:1 ratio of 2 cycle oil they will last a very long time. You got to remember the short comes in both breeds is the filters and the fuel lubricity. Bosch states it should be no greater than 450-460 HFRR. Then think to yourself today's ULSD is 520 HFRR so it not even making the grade with Bosch.

Just some strange tidbit of information...

 

[ramhunter9]

I use 2 cycle in every gallon of fuel I put in .. definitely dump in some 2 cycle in the gas tank then fill with fuel .
I do this for 2 reasons ... I have a new pump and second I want it to LAST !
Along with my fuel upgrades I think it should last a long time . Its all in the supporting mods and the care taken to make sure they run at peak performance .

 

[schroederMP]

I use 2 cycle in every gallon of fuel I put in .. definitely dump in some 2 cycle in the gas tank then fill with fuel .
I do this for 2 reasons ... I have a new pump and second I want it to LAST !
Along with my fuel upgrades I think it should last a long time . Its all in the supporting mods and the care taken to make sure they run at peak performance .

X2...I run 1oz of 2 stroke per every gallon of fuel. I think thats a 200:1 ration. Made my engine quiuter, better MPG, and it just made me feel better!

 

[Mopar1973Man]

X2...I run 1oz of 2 stroke per every gallon of fuel. I think thats a 200:1 ration. Made my engine quiuter, better MPG, and it just made me feel better!

Actually no... It's 128:1 ratio... 256:1 is 1/2 ounce of oil for every gallon.

 

[schroederMP]

Actually no... It's 128:1 ratio... 256:1 is 1/2 ounce of oil for every gallon.

Thanks for the correction man...thats why I said I think

 

[Stangshcky12]

Another good on to laugh about. For year VP44 injection pump became famous for failures and problem and being expensive to replace. Well people like myself figure out the magic to making a VP44 last a very long time. So if your to replace a VP44 right now its about $950 to $1,100 for a pump through some vendors I know.

Ok so now compare to the CR engine when the injectors start to fail it best to just replace them all since if 1 is failing then the other 5 are close behind. CR injectors are roughly $2,700 to $3,000 for a set of six. I can buy 3 injection pumps for the price of CR injectors.

But at least when a VP44 dies it just leaves you strainded on the highway. When CR injectors go it will wipe out the bottom end of the engine costing you at least a short block.

But in either case if you install a FASS or AirDog fuel system with 2-3 micron filters. Then on the CR's use 200:1 ratio of 2 cycle oil and on the VP44 128:1 ratio of 2 cycle oil they will last a very long time. You got to remember the short comes in both breeds is the filters and the fuel lubricity. Bosch states it should be no greater than 450-460 HFRR. Then think to yourself today's ULSD is 520 HFRR so it not even making the grade with Bosch.

Just some strange tidbit of information...

It is costly to replace injectors by its not always the case that you wash the pistons. We had fuel problems last winter that cost is 6 injectors in one truck and 3 in another. Both are still running strong. I noticed a tapping noise and iregular black smoke(under normal acceleration). Our 6.7 went into limp mode and defy else's when it lost 3 injectors.
IMO its typically operators fault if they loose an injectors and it cost them an engine.
6 new injectors was under 2 grand installed thanks to Jeff mumau

 

[Burntfire]

All this knowledge makes my head hurt.

 

[ramhunter9]

All this knowledge makes my head hurt.

It makes my ,,,,, hard :********: