Difference between 09-11 and 12+ trucks

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I keep hearing that the 12+ trucks are somehow different than the 11- trucks body wise somehow, but i just cant seem to find what it actually different. I have an 11 cummins and my landlord has a 16, and everything looks the same, i cant even tell a difference with the grill. Can someone elaborate please?

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2013 is where they body style (mid gen refresh) happened. However in later model 2012's a few little changes were incorporated(nothing visual).

Basically 2012's are the same as 2009-2011.
 

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The end of 2013 production is when they added the 8 speed zf trans. That was the biggest change I am aware of.

In 2011, the rear diff was changed to zf axle. Other than those and some small changes, there isn't much difference.
 

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with the 13 refresh that started the 8.4 uconnect and a lot of electrical changes
 

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The only thing I miss on my 2011 or wish is that eight speed tranny with my 3:92 Axle

Man those eight speeds are sweet , and then you combine the 3:92 Axle , fun fun fun
 
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I know about the difference in the interior, electronics, drivetrain, and such, im wondering what the difference in the bodies are, i should have clarified that. Like when i look at grills on amazon they specify 09-11 or 12, and then 13-up
I cant visually identify any difference between my 11 and my landlords 16

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The most noticeable difference in the grill is the bottom corners angle up or the technical term have a chamfer. The grill itself is actually taller also

2011 grill

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2016 grill

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Next noticeable difference is horizontal fogs on 2009 through 2012 and vertical on 2013 through 2018(not grill related though)
 

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2013 is also when they started thermal management.The outdoor temp sensor was moved from behind the grill to the drivers side mirror and it was tied into the 6 speed transmissions shift programming.
 

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I know the cosmetic and electrical differences, because I had a '12, and now '18. However, what changed as far as intakes go? I see some intakes say for '09-'12 only. I know there was a slight increase in HP/TQ as well...
 
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Did the body changes also effect the HD trucks? The grills on the 16 and my 11 seem to be identical, even in the bottom corners

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