Disappointing 2020 Classic 5.7L

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Have a 2020 Classic that I consider having below avg. performance. It has the 5.7 with a 87mm throttle body a 3.92 anti spin rear. I've had numerous hot rods over the years all with posi or lockers and could still smoke the tires. With the traction control off, still can't spin the tires. Any one out there have the same truck for a comparison.
 

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I found out several years ago, the factory likes to reduce torque to keep wheel spin under control. My 2011 300C was not that impressive when I first got it despite having the 5.7 in it. A tuner made it a completely different car. After the tune I could easily light the tires and the down****s were way crisper, not to mention eliminating the slight throttle hesitation. Best money I spent on that car.
 

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Have a 2020 Classic that I consider having below avg. performance. It has the 5.7 with a 87mm throttle body a 3.92 anti spin rear. I've had numerous hot rods over the years all with posi or lockers and could still smoke the tires. With the traction control off, still can't spin the tires. Any one out there have the same truck for a comparison.
With some custom tuning you will think you are driving a different truck. There are slot of things in the tune along with the ESP/ABS that do their darn best to keep the wheel spin under control.

With some tuning there are quite a few things that I can do to make more power and get the tires rolling. Take a look at having your PCM unlocked and tuned by a custom tuner. You won't reset the decision.
 

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Torque management is OP's problem. Custom tuning will help.

I would opt to buy a second unlocked ECU. Leave your factory ECU untouched, just in case you need to swap back to it. Nothing worse than a bricked module leaving you dead in the water.
 
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Thanks for the info.. That info. was what I was thinking but I needed some confirmation about tuning. I'm old school (70 y.o.) with little new car knowledge. I will install long tube headers and true duals before the tune. Also, should the truck be put on a Dyno or just purchase a tuner. Thanks again everyone.
 

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Thanks for the info.. That info. was what I was thinking but I needed some confirmation about tuning. I'm old school (70 y.o.) with little new car knowledge. I will install long tube headers and true duals before the tune. Also, should the truck be put on a Dyno or just purchase a tuner. Thanks again everyone.

When you purchase a tuner, unlocked ECU and custom tuning the tuner, whether Hemifever or Jay Green, will have you drive and data log for a couple days on the stock tune. You'll download the logs and send them to the tuner. They will then email you a custom tune based on the logs. You'll repeat this process, maybe once to a couple times, until the truck is running properly.
 

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I agree with you that smoking the tires looks cool but if you ever get in a race street or dragstrip you'll be glad when you can get traction. A lot of races are won out of the hole. I love how mine takes off from a dead stop and my tires last longer! LOL
 
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I was just referring to the ability to do so. I'm well aware of that monster called wheel spin. I would have had more wins in the late 60's, early 70's with the Green Monster (57 Chevy in Jacksonville, Fl. area) if I had had better traction. In the past it was controlled by feel, not by computer. Again, thanks for all the input.
 

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My 2019 Classic was that way, install a Pedal Commander, cheaper, doesn't hurt the warranty, and you'll spin the wheels..
 

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Strange, my 2016 1500 with 3.21 gears would let the tires spin into 2nd gear. Same goes for my 2019 2500 6.4 / 3.73.
 

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On my 2014 I had to disable traction control and put it in tow/haul before I could do a decent burn out. But they are right, a tune makes a huge difference in these trucks
 

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I don't know exactly what length, sound and 'quality' of burnout we're talking here, but with my 2019 Ram 1500 classic hemi, crew cab, short bed 4x4, 3.21's. It will squeal the tires on dry, solid pavement every time if you stomp on it. I don't have the heart to break torque it. Tires are to darn expensive. LOL. Stock sized 17's is what I have on it.
 

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I agree with you that smoking the tires looks cool but if you ever get in a race street or dragstrip you'll be glad when you can get traction. A lot of races are won out of the hole. I love how mine takes off from a dead stop and my tires last longer! LOL
Its how I win a lot of those in both my truck and charger.
 

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Have a 2020 Classic that I consider having below avg. performance. It has the 5.7 with a 87mm throttle body a 3.92 anti spin rear. I've had numerous hot rods over the years all with posi or lockers and could still smoke the tires. With the traction control off, still can't spin the tires. Any one out there have the same truck for a comparison.
Wrong forum. This is the 5th gen, you have a 4th gen.
 

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Mine with Intake and exhaust and tune was insanely fast, even stock it would bounce off the rev limiter in 3rd gear and spin the tires as far as you were brave enough to go. It sounds like your traction control isn't disengaging.
 

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2021 Classic here with 3.92 and limited slip...

For me, I have no issues to make my tires spin, but it doesn't last. As soon as the limited slip kicks in it's traction time! In most cases, I get 2 nice tire marks. Longest ones were a good 20 feet, depends on the surface as well. So for me I have no issues making my tires spin. I also have a Pedal Commander, that IMO helps. I also put the recommended 89 octane (not sure if that does anything).
 
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