Eco Diesel 3.0L

[jljbtm]

I just saw one of these 2016
3L EcoDiesel for sale and would like to hear from someone who owns one how they like it?

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[hodge-xj]

I just saw one of these 2016
3L EcoDiesel for sale and would like to hear from someone who owns one how they like it?

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I have one and love it! Anything in particular you wanna know

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[jljbtm]

So I currently have the 5.7 Hemi. Is the EcoDiesel just as powerful for towing purposes is it reliable I mean there haven't been any recalls or problems noted with it is that right? And I would only assume the mileage is slightly better

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[hodge-xj]

So I currently have the 5.7 Hemi. Is the EcoDiesel just as powerful for towing purposes is it reliable I mean there haven't been any recalls or problems noted with it is that right? And I would only assume the mileage is slightly better

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I don't have the exact info in front of me with the tow eating specs but I know depending on the configuration it's about 9-10k. I think the hemi is rated for a bit more. That being said, the diesel makes more torque, just less HP. It is no slouch when it comes to moving things, it's just limited by the packaged that's around the motor.

As for recalls, the eco diesel has a slew of consumer issues. That being said mine has been 100% trouble free. You have to look at the overall demographic. Diesels need heat to perform properly, most of the issues are from people who frequent short trips and don't ever get the motor or emissions equipment hot enough to function as intended. I run lots of highway, and make sure I get the truck hot. It's gotten a bad reputation, but really isn't a bad motor if used as intended.

Unloaded I get mid 20s, and I'm on larger tires and a mild lift. I don't tow much anymore but most report mid teens running at proper speeds.

In all, if you use it as a primary vehicle and run mostly highway between towing trips, it's worth considering but I wouldn't dump your current rig for one if they are optioned the same. If the 2016 is an upgrade and you're concerned about losing capability, you won't. Do not get it if you do lots of city driving and short trips. You will quickly end up with a nightmare on your hands.

I'm not sure what marketing genius ever decided a diesel motor marketed for short trips was a good angle, but they are idiots.

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[crash68]

so far knock on wood I've had no issues with mine and I've towed upwards/over 8K lbs. Is it going to fly up grades at 75+mph while towing, not likely but your an idiot for doing that in any vehicle towing. It does have enough get up n go to pass traffic not as commanding as the Hemi but I'll get 14-15 mpg towing that 8K load where as the Hemi is probably single digit fuel economy.
If you like the fun pedal of the Hemi, keep what you have. If your looking for better efficiency while driving/towing than entertain the EcoDiesel. Not even the Ford Ecoboost can do both, it's either eco or boost.

 

[jljbtm]

Thx. For all that info, Oh are you in a colder climate?

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[hodge-xj]

so far knock on wood I've had no issues with mine and I've towed upwards/over 8K lbs. Is it going to fly up grades at 75+mph while towing, not likely but your an idiot for doing that in any vehicle towing. It does have enough get up n go to pass traffic not as commanding as the Hemi but I'll get 14-15 mpg towing that 8K load where as the Hemi is probably single digit fuel economy.
If you like the fun pedal of the Hemi, keep what you have. If your looking for better efficiency while driving/towing than entertain the EcoDiesel. Not even the Ford Ecoboost can do both, it's either eco or boost.

I agree completely. There's alot of mis information with the ecos. The other forum is full of "first truck/first diesel" people who had no idea wtf any diesel requires. They were drawn by the 30mpg hype in a truck. So yea, the target demographic was a big cause of the frequent issues.

Does this truck pull like my old 2500 no. Buts it's a 1500. I don't expect it to. Like crash said just be mindful. It's not fast, nor is it slow. It a just got "nuts" does everything well. I will say, with a tune, it will blow the tires off as much as ESC allows.

I came from a 2013 ecoboost. There is no Eco. It's a bad ass motor, but thirsty. I was disappointed as even trying to hyper mile my best tank was 18 mpg. Butttttt, it was the fastest stock truck I've ever been in, bar none.

I wouldn't throw myself into one again tho. Diesels in general are under so much scrutiny from the EPA anymore , i feel the future is grim, tho I hope I'm wrong. Big block gassers are becoming more and more common. Even tuners are waving the white flag, deletes are no more.....i could rant forever.

In closing, if you just gotta have it, for whatever reason, it's a great truck. But these trucks are hit or miss.

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[hodge-xj]

Thx. For all that info, Oh are you in a colder climate?

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Yep. I am in NJ.

Hot as **** in the summer, cold as balls in the winter. Plug it in to keep glow plugs happy, cardboard in front of radiator and temps are good.

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[Tach_tech]

Main issues I see are clogged ERG/DPF. In the winter sometimes frozen DEF. They don’t like short trip city driving, if that’s all you do, don’t get one, you’ll have issues.

They can be a reliable engine if you treat them properly. Don’t idle it excessively, they plug up. Make sure it gets regular highway driving so it can regen properly. As soon as average temps are at or below freezing, put the winter front on. Maintenance is big, fuel filters, air filters, oil changes. They can be very sensitive to dirty air filters, you’ll get a CEL.

As a tech though, I’d personally never own one, especially out of warranty. I’d stick with the hemi. You’ll get less mpg, but initial cost,maintenance, fuel price are all lower. Many places diesel is as much if not more than gas. As well a much more proven/reliable engine. That’s just my opinion though.

 

[hodge-xj]

Main issues I see are clogged ERG/DPF. In the winter sometimes frozen DEF. They don’t like short trip city driving, if that’s all you do, don’t get one, you’ll have issues.

They can be a reliable engine if you treat them properly. Don’t idle it excessively, they plug up. Make sure it gets regular highway driving so it can regen properly. As soon as average temps are at or below freezing, put the winter front on. Maintenance is big, fuel filters, air filters, oil changes. They can be very sensitive to dirty air filters, you’ll get a CEL.

As a tech though, I’d personally never own one, especially out of warranty. I’d stick with the hemi. You’ll get less mpg, but initial cost,maintenance, fuel price are all lower. Many places diesel is as much if not more than gas. As well a much more proven/reliable engine. That’s just my opinion though.

As a tech I'm sure you've seen many.

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[crash68]

Thx. For all that info, Oh are you in a colder climate?

SE Michigan
I use the block heater anytime the weather is about freezing to get the engine warmer faster. I use a sectional stainless winter front made by Precision Manf about when the weather stays below 40°F. Mopar makes an adjustable front cover you so the same with. The upper sections get closed off as the temps drop below freezing. Three at 30°F, two sections at 20°F, one at 10°F and all of them by 0°F unless your towing seems to work good.

 

[hodge-xj]

SE Michigan
I use the block heater anytime the weather is about freezing to get the engine warmer faster. I use a sectional stainless winter front made by Precision Manf about when the weather stays below 40°F. Mopar makes an adjustable front cover you so the same with. The upper sections get closed off as the temps drop below freezing. Three at 30°F, two sections at 20°F, one at 10°F and all of them by 0°F unless your towing seems to work good.

What are these inserts you speak of? My truck didn't come with a winter front

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[crash68]

What are these inserts you speak of? My truck didn't come with a winter front

It's polished stainless steel inserts from Precision Manufacturing in Canada, I don't think they make them anymore. There is even block off plates for the lower openings(see pic)


https://www.precisioncanada.com/truck/products.php

The Mopar one for the EcoDiesel with the adjustable flaps:
82213959AC
If you have a CTD(or even the EcoD), look on Geno's Garage, they have a couple of them.

 

[Random_Walk]

I doubt they make 'em anymore either, given that nowadays we have Active Grille Shutters (I even have those in front of the smallest gasser engine Ram makes...)

 

[hodge-xj]

I need to look at some options instead of the cardboard I use. Might make a set of insert plates for the grill. Thanks!

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[Tach_tech]

I doubt they make 'em anymore either, given that nowadays we have Active Grille Shutters (I even have those in front of the smallest gasser engine Ram makes...)

Any 1500 with the 8 speed will have the active grill shutters. The eco diesels came with an additional winter front that’s supposed to be on any time temps are at or below freezing. It’s to prevent icing in the intake/charge air system.

 

[hodge-xj]

Any 1500 with the 8 speed will have the active grill shutters. The eco diesels came with an additional winter front that’s supposed to be on any time temps are at or below freezing. It’s to prevent icing in the intake/charge air system.

Yep, don't have the extra winter front for mine. I use cardboard right now in front of rad.

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[Tom Williams]

My buddy just rid of his, his motor blew with 50k miles. He uses his trucks for work this truck left him on the side highway. He traded it while it was in the shop for 6.4. I have wanted one but I’m scared of the stories, then again you hear of people that zero issues.

 

[repo4sale]

6.7 Cummins brah

29mpgSanAntonio2Houston
28mpgElPadeo2SanAntonio
30mpgVegas2Phoenix
26mpgMississippi2Vegas
30mpgPortland2AmarilloTx
27mpgTacoma2Portland
26mpgOhio2ldaho
24mpgPennsylvania 2NC
27mpgMephis2Pensacola
28mpgGreenBay2Chicago
27mpgIndianapolis 2GrRap
28mpgJacksonville 2 WaDC
31mpg Ok City to Dallas Tx
27mpg Houston to El Paso Tx
27-33mpgs freeway 60mph
18-20mpgs city driving 10-18mpg off road
10-18mpgs tow 6kLbs Boat

2015 2500 Tradesman Cummins 6spd 4x4 4door Deleted 4" pipe, KN flat air filter camper shell EdgeCts2
20gal hitch tank front
30gal hitch tank rear
3 light bars =970watts front
1st responder, CERT 10k lbs. TransforceAt 2757018 tires
Same mpgs since deleted by PFdiesel.com @78k
25-32mpgs freeway
15-20city,
10-15 off road

Efficiency is measured TonXMiles per gallon used by scientist in the diesel truck industry.5.2tonsX28+mpg= 146TonMile/gallon[emoji3]

Toyota Prius is 3200=1.6tX50 mpg=80Tmile/gallon [emoji38]

Railroads 500ton mile
18wheeler 7x20=140ton mile

6 way MPGs calculated=
1-RAM computer
2-Garmin gps
3-Google maps gps
4-USGS maps Android
5-AAA maps Android
6-hand=4 semesters calculus

Diesel ECONOMY TIPS
1:Speed 55-65
2: Close Windows
3: No items on top of car
4: Make truck aerodynamic
5: Inflate tires maximum 80?
6: High rear end gearing3.42
7: Factory tall tires
8: 5-40w Synthetic Oil
9: avoid 4x4 driving
10: Remove excessive weight
11: Fuel is heavy too
12: Plan journey wisely
13: warm up engine
14: clean outside
15: Avoid RAIN
16: No aggressive driving
17: Don't over-rev.
18: Gear fast, slow accelerate
19: Avoid idling.
20: Overdrive & cruise control
21: Ele&AC worsens MPG
22: Exploit cruising down hill
23: Avoid a complete stop
24: red>roll in neutral gear
25: Tune engine to low HP
26: Change oil regularly.
27: Replace air filters asap
33: Leave early Family drama
34 constant Mph=Mpg
36: avoid drama & stress
37 Park in shade
38 cruz2 save braking
39: Forced induction =MPG
41:Rough asphalt tire wear7%
42:Use brakes to slow down
43change fuel filters often
44change power train oils
45avoid wider tires
46avoid jacking truck height
47used tires =better MPGs
48TenDegrees=HalfMileMpg
49 rpm 1400-1600

Obama Diesel Exhaust[emoji26] Cooker warranty expired 80k. 3rd Cooker[emoji24] by 75K so @78k I deleted. Saving fuel & costs 10c mile = $1000/10,000 miles[emoji3]
Or $10,000/100k miles[emoji3]
So if I deleted@0, 210,000 = $21,000 fuel & cost savings 2016to2018[emoji3]

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[weldguy]

Didnt the early versions have a problem with the cam sprockets?