kayjo
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Dakota, where are you on this? Any change? The only reason I ask, is I developed a tick like this after my last oil change, I threw some lubegard and going to give it a few miles. I have listened to a lot of ticks on the net, some that are easily exhaust ticks, most get better when warm. and a lot of people complaining about injector noise. it seems some get really noisy. I think it might be cheap gas.
However, yours is a lot like mine, though mine is not quite as pronounced. And though, like yours, is more of warm engine problem. Mine starts cold without the noise , then it slow fades in as it warms up, but its only like 30 seconds before I hear it. Not sure how long yours takes. Your cold start sounds good and solid. The only thing different about mine, is though it fades in as it warms up. Afrer a good drive, it almost completely non-existent. So its like quite on start, , as warms up starts ticking a bit, and after running for 30 minutes or so driving normally, it seems almost completely quiet, you wouldnt know it, unless, you knew what you were listening for. SO it is there.
like I said, I have listened to a bunch of ticks on the net. lots of exhaust stuff. Timing when mine developed doesnt fit with this , and your experience as well. I have heard a lot of injector stuff and that is more like a rhythmic clatter. Yours, like mine, is pingy, and has a lower end sound to it , But I do get some sound in left side top end, Just less than listening under the wheel well. That bad lifter video in this thread, is very clattery on the bottom, but very easy to hear a collapsed needle bearing and crashing roller. You can almost hear how their is harmonic oscillation on the hammering of lifter. To me the lifter tick seems faster than the exhaust ticks (relative to rpm) ours seem to have the cadence of the exhaust tick. So, I am troubled trying to say what the problem is. Id bet it is a lifter, its just not a crashed or collapsed roller. Its probably something lacking lube in the lifter guides or maybe some sort of sticking in one of the lifters, I am considering throwing some seafoam at it. My guess the difference is mine may actually free up a bit when fully warm for a while, while yours does not.
You sound like you have tried a bunch of oils on this and have you changed filters each time? what filter are you using? I am considering dropping all new oil and filter, even though its got less than 1000 mi on it.
It sounds like the oils you have tried are all pretty much the same. Have you tried some PUP? or something with lots of Moly. I should be running about 250ppm with mine.
In the end, doesn't seem to be exhaust related, and it doesnt seem to be injector related. ( but worth trying better gas and a cleaner ) But, for the life of me, if a bad lifter, it makes almost no sense that you can have cold start
that sounds as good as yours does. Oil does thin when hot, youd have to have some really sticky oil to give you that much start up protection, Like stp motor honey stick. So, we are missing something here.
However, yours is a lot like mine, though mine is not quite as pronounced. And though, like yours, is more of warm engine problem. Mine starts cold without the noise , then it slow fades in as it warms up, but its only like 30 seconds before I hear it. Not sure how long yours takes. Your cold start sounds good and solid. The only thing different about mine, is though it fades in as it warms up. Afrer a good drive, it almost completely non-existent. So its like quite on start, , as warms up starts ticking a bit, and after running for 30 minutes or so driving normally, it seems almost completely quiet, you wouldnt know it, unless, you knew what you were listening for. SO it is there.
like I said, I have listened to a bunch of ticks on the net. lots of exhaust stuff. Timing when mine developed doesnt fit with this , and your experience as well. I have heard a lot of injector stuff and that is more like a rhythmic clatter. Yours, like mine, is pingy, and has a lower end sound to it , But I do get some sound in left side top end, Just less than listening under the wheel well. That bad lifter video in this thread, is very clattery on the bottom, but very easy to hear a collapsed needle bearing and crashing roller. You can almost hear how their is harmonic oscillation on the hammering of lifter. To me the lifter tick seems faster than the exhaust ticks (relative to rpm) ours seem to have the cadence of the exhaust tick. So, I am troubled trying to say what the problem is. Id bet it is a lifter, its just not a crashed or collapsed roller. Its probably something lacking lube in the lifter guides or maybe some sort of sticking in one of the lifters, I am considering throwing some seafoam at it. My guess the difference is mine may actually free up a bit when fully warm for a while, while yours does not.
You sound like you have tried a bunch of oils on this and have you changed filters each time? what filter are you using? I am considering dropping all new oil and filter, even though its got less than 1000 mi on it.
It sounds like the oils you have tried are all pretty much the same. Have you tried some PUP? or something with lots of Moly. I should be running about 250ppm with mine.
In the end, doesn't seem to be exhaust related, and it doesnt seem to be injector related. ( but worth trying better gas and a cleaner ) But, for the life of me, if a bad lifter, it makes almost no sense that you can have cold start
that sounds as good as yours does. Oil does thin when hot, youd have to have some really sticky oil to give you that much start up protection, Like stp motor honey stick. So, we are missing something here.
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