Hemi Tick

[Nails]

I have a 2017 ram 1500 4 x 4. And I am looking to install a lift kit, but I also have the HEMI tick that needs to be addressed. While I have the suspension off in process of doing the lift installation, should I go ahead and replace the exhaust manifold, because I feel like everything I need to access will be exposed already and just do it 2 for 1. My only concern is getting to the point where I have a broken stud and I cannot get it out my garage.

 

[rzr6-4]

I mean you 100% have a broken bolt so just make sure you have the parts, tools and time to deal with it while you have things completely torn apart for a couple days if need be. Worst case if you can't get it then you just put it back together as is with the tick and put your new suspension on, then deal with the tick later.

 

[EdGs]

^^^^This^^^^

Do you know if the manifold stud broken is broken just under the head of the stud, or flush with the cylinder head?

Paseenger side? Drivers side? Both? More than 1 broken bolt?

All of these will dictate how you approach the repair. Best of luck for an easy, lasting fix.

 

[David H]

should I go ahead and replace the exhaust manifold

Most here will tell you not to replace the manifold but have it resurface so it's flat. It has already warped so it should not warp further while a replacement manifold give you the same issues down the road.

 

[Burla]

I have a 2017 ram 1500 4 x 4. And I am looking to install a lift kit, but I also have the HEMI tick that needs to be addressed. While I have the suspension off in process of doing the lift installation, should I go ahead and replace the exhaust manifold, because I feel like everything I need to access will be exposed already and just do it 2 for 1. My only concern is getting to the point where I have a broken stud and I cannot get it out my garage.

It's not a hard job, but a dangerous one. Drill out that stud and you are right on the coolant lines. weld a nut and washer on the broken bolt per wildone as the best way to remove that and not go through water jacket.

 

[Daniel from Texas]

I have a 2017 ram 1500 4 x 4. And I am looking to install a lift kit, but I also have the HEMI tick that needs to be addressed. While I have the suspension off in process of doing the lift installation, should I go ahead and replace the exhaust manifold, because I feel like everything I need to access will be exposed already and just do it 2 for 1. My only concern is getting to the point where I have a broken stud and I cannot get it out my garage.

They sell a great kit to drill and tap out the broken stud, I bought one and have used it 3 times. I'd buy some reverse direction drill bits, as you drill sometimes the stud just comes out.

71500 Exhaust Manifold Template Removal Tool Set for Dodge 5.7L Hemi Motors, Remove Broken Exhaust Manifold Bolts Without Damage Cylinder Head $57.​

 

[magman777]

I don't know if I missed something, but I don't think he said he had a broken stud. He was just worried about running into one. He said he has the Hemi tick, which if I'm not mistaken all of the 5.7s have it. Mine does, but I'm not going to tear it apart, at least not yet LOL. I sometimes wonder when I first start it, but it quiets down after a little bit. I might be way off base and talking out my butt, but it sounds to me like he has more worry than problem. JMHO

 

[Burla]

I don't know if I missed something, but I don't think he said he had a broken stud. He was just worried about running into one. He said he has the Hemi tick, which if I'm not mistaken all of the 5.7s have it. Mine does, but I'm not going to tear it apart, at least not yet LOL. I sometimes wonder when I first start it, but it quiets down after a little bit. I might be way off base and talking out my butt, but it sounds to me like he has more worry than problem. JMHO

He mentioned replacing manifold we assume to deal with tick. There are two sources of hemi tick, lifters or bolts and it is about 50/50 % of all cases. In lifter hemi tick two lubrication strategies are proven 50% and 80% effective. The best shot at killing lifter tick is redline 5w30, see thread in my sig, 100's of trucks tested early last decade. It is the science of aw/EP additives.

 

[Tominator223]

Have a welder with you when you do manifold(s). The machine & the guy. Not just the guy. lol.

 

[Grenadiers]

Well, my 2019 1500 classic developed the "Hemi-tick" not all that long ago. The truck is currently sitting at 175,000 kms.

I brought it in to the dealership because the front half axles, once again, need to be replaced (this make 7 half axles and counting since i got this truck!!!).

Not to worry, they are still under warranty (lifetime), and the labor cost is covered by Ensurall (the extended warranty I purchased). At the same time, I mentioned about the ticking sound and, suprise surprise, the cam shafts need to be replaced. That work will come to about $7,500 (not including the labor cost for the 2 half axles replacements). The work includes 2 Rocker Arms, Exhaust, 16 pushrods, at least 1 cam shaft, lifters, 2 Rocker Arms, Intake and 2 valve cover gaskets PLUS 17 hours of labor!!

I still have to add up all the invoices for the work that has been done on my truck covered by this extended warranty, but my rough math has it at around $18,000 (so far) ...and counting.

On the sad news side, this warranty runs out at around 196,000kms... so at about 188,000, I plan to have the truck gone over with a "fine tooth comb" to make sure I am not going to be facing any (other) medium to big ticket repairs!!

I'm still on the fence about moving on to a new vehicle at/around the 200,000kms mark...

And who knows, perhaps they may find an issue with the Exhaust Manifold too...

 

[Burla]

Even if you could replace it, replace it with what? Your bed was made for you. Many of us are playing with bottom pair and you are rolling with 4 aces, yeah it is possible you can lose but 4 aces is hard to toss on the muck. However, what the heck is up with the axle situation? That might be something worth dumping. I don't know about the e torque, but the hurricane has a ten year warranty on it.

 

[Bob Horowski]

WOW seven front half axles on 2019 truck. One per year average, what is this vehicle being used for?

 

[Burla]

Could do a solid axle swap (SAS), when I priced that for my 2010 it was 3500 back then. I'm sure it is double that perhaps just for the axle. If you can source a used solid axle might be able to get it don't 3500, but the issue is that box hanging under the RAM 1500, there needs to be a plan for that. Might be a situation where it is time for a 2500 just for the axle alone

 

[Grenadiers]

WOW seven front half axles on 2019 truck. One per year average, what is this vehicle being used for?

LOL, well, it's not a "pampered princess" that's for sure, but I also don't beat it till it screams Uncle either. It's my daily driver here in "Winterpeg". it's also been on several cross country road trips/vacations etc.

I've run into other Ram owners who have had similar experience with their front axles as well. Part of the problem is our VERY COLD winters, and the rubber boots that protect the axles aren't worth their weight in salt!! They tend to Crack (open) allowing all the "crap and corruption" we throw on our roads here during the winter to give us SOME traction that tends to find it's way into the lovely space created by the crack(s). Time, and use of the 4X4 does all the rest...

I asked the "pros" at the Dealerships and they all said the same thing. The boots WILL, at some time, fail. You can delay the inevitable a bit by spraying the boots with a good quality silicone spray, clean the area as much as possible AND limit the use of the 4X4 as much as possible. However, the boots WILL fail at some point...

It would not suprise me in the least if the members here took a peek at their front axle boots and found that one or both are open to the environment. Especially those that face a lot of winter driving.

Hell my neighbor thought his Ram's 4X4 was working fine, until he got stuck on his driveway after a pretty bad blizzard that we had one year (hell, 4X4's just DON'T, or shouldn't get stuck... at least I've never been stuck longer than a few minutes at most). I went over to help him, and as he attempted to get "un-stuck, I noticed that only 1 of his 4 wheels was ACTUALLY turning!! Mind you, that was just one of his problems. He is not from this country, and DEFINITELY did not know how to drive in the winter (he kept turning his wheels rather than keeping them straight!! I guess there is not much snow in India).

There must have been more damage to the whole drive train because I never saw him drive that Ram again. It was gone never to be seen again after he had it towed off of his driveway!! More than likely fainted when he was told how much it would cost to fix ALL the issues/problems!

I think that the only time the boots tend to even get noticed (for the most part) is when you specificly look/inspect them during/after an oil change. In fact 2 of the times my boots were shot and open was when I brought it in for an oil change and it was pointed out to me.

These days, I can pretty much tell when the axles themselves have failed (if not caught between oil changes). And that is when I engage the 4X4 and use it (say to get unstuck from deep snow or mud, or on icey roads).

I'm just not impressed with the 4X4 system in/on these Ram 1500's...

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE this truck! it is FAST, powerful, and can really handle a good load or trailer! I just wish that Stelantis/Chrysler/RAM (who ever!) would come up with a permanent fix for this!

Oh, and for those that say I should get a different shop to replace the axles, 3 different shops have had a crack at fixing this problem (2 different RAM dealers, and 1 independent that was recommended to me). So poor installation is not the problem...

 

[Grenadiers]

Could do a solid axle swap (SAS), when I priced that for my 2010 it was 3500 back then. I'm sure it is double that perhaps just for the axle. If you can source a used solid axle might be able to get it don't 3500, but the issue is that box hanging under the RAM 1500, there needs to be a plan for that. Might be a situation where it is time for a 2500 just for the axle alone

The sad part is that when I was looking at getting a truck, I was actually thinking about getting a 2500. But there was nothing on the lot at the time that appealed to me, so I went with the 1500 Classic I have now. Perhaps I should have waited...

 

[EdGs]

@Grenadiers, If they're gonna do all 16 pushrods, they might just as well do all 4 rocker arms instead of just 2. OE Mopar rocker arms are only about $150 each at RockAuto.

Would be cool if you could get them to do the timing set, oil pump, MDS and VVT solenoids.

Valves are another thing to check, I found a chipped stem and stem wear on mine, ended up replacing all as well. I can't complain, she had 201K on her, she was worth the pain.

Might be worth asking, even if you had to cover cost of parts. Then you would know your top end is refreshed.

Edit: Just realized you have <110k miles on your truck. Sad you are having this issue so young in the mileage.

Wish you the best.

 

[GeauxinUp]

Well, my 2019 1500 classic developed the "Hemi-tick" not all that long ago. The truck is currently sitting at 175,000 kms.

I brought it in to the dealership because the front half axles, once again, need to be replaced (this make 7 half axles and counting since i got this truck!!!).

Not to worry, they are still under warranty (lifetime), and the labor cost is covered by Ensurall (the extended warranty I purchased). At the same time, I mentioned about the ticking sound and, suprise surprise, the cam shafts need to be replaced. That work will come to about $7,500 (not including the labor cost for the 2 half axles replacements). The work includes 2 Rocker Arms, Exhaust, 16 pushrods, at least 1 cam shaft, lifters, 2 Rocker Arms, Intake and 2 valve cover gaskets PLUS 17 hours of labor!!

I still have to add up all the invoices for the work that has been done on my truck covered by this extended warranty, but my rough math has it at around $18,000 (so far) ...and counting.

On the sad news side, this warranty runs out at around 196,000kms... so at about 188,000, I plan to have the truck gone over with a "fine tooth comb" to make sure I am not going to be facing any (other) medium to big ticket repairs!!

I'm still on the fence about moving on to a new vehicle at/around the 200,000kms mark...

And who knows, perhaps they may find an issue with the Exhaust Manifold too...

Did they check the VVT solenoid for metal shavings? I was under the impression that Ma Mopar's "policy" was engine replacement?

 

[Burla]

The sad part is that when I was looking at getting a truck, I was actually thinking about getting a 2500. But there was nothing on the lot at the time that appealed to me, so I went with the 1500 Classic I have now. Perhaps I should have waited...

me too on that one, if I knew I'd have it at least 15 years and probably is my last truck/vehicle, I would 2500'd up. Still, sometimes we have to re-evaluate the situation and maybe look at used 2500's.

 

[Grenadiers]

me too on that one, if I knew I'd have it at least 15 years and probably is my last truck/vehicle, I would 2500'd up. Still, sometimes we have to re-evaluate the situation and maybe look at used 2500's.

My thoughts the same.

My very first vehicle i ever owned was a 1977 Dodge Little Red Express truck and I thought it would be nice to have this as my last purchased vehicle.

And yes, I wish I still had that 77 Little Red Express truck!!!! THAT was both a beast of a machine!

 

[Nails]

I don't know if I missed something, but I don't think he said he had a broken stud. He was just worried about running into one. He said he has the Hemi tick, which if I'm not mistaken all of the 5.7s have it. Mine does, but I'm not going to tear it apart, at least not yet LOL. I sometimes wonder when I first start it, but it quiets down after a little bit. I might be way off base and talking out my butt, but it sounds to me like he has more worry than problem. JMHO