Farewell Ram and hello Tundra

[Kap1]

Hi All,

This day has come, after 9 years of ownership of my 2013 ram 1500, at 120k miles, it's time to move on.

At 120k miles there are just too many things to fix and I didn't feel like throwing "good money after bad"... Lifters and cam or probably the entire long block, transmission won't get into D or R often , brake system warnings. After reading so many stories here how guys tried to upgrade the cam/lifters, did their research, spend tons of money, and keep having knocking or other cel codes, it just wasn't worth the risk to me, and my time and sanity are more valuable to me right now.

I was very disappointed in my ram for completely falling apart at 120k miles, and probably needing about 20k in repairs... I always took very good care of it, used redline 5-30 from the beginning, and was hoping to keep this truck for many more years.

I couldn't make myself buy another ram. I wanted one, was still attracted to them but why would I buy another ram with Chrysler not fixing lifter and manifold bolt issues for the past decade... Dealers around my area suck big time too, I hated wasting time, fighting with them trying to get multiple issues fixed.... So I made decision against ram, as well as other domestic brands.

Just sold my ram to carmax dealership for 13.5k luckily I didn't have any cel lights during the inspection, and the sales rep didn't understand what the lifter/cam engine noises were...

I will miss this community though. I've learned so much over the years on these forums! And members of this forum were always very helpful, mature and welcoming.

Getting used to my new Tundra 2022 now, but still miss my old ram (not the many issues though).

 

[pjram]

Best of luck to you. Many will probably give you some flack but I get it. I have 83k on my 16 and the electroni gremlins are starting already. I always planned to keep it till anything major starts to develop and trade it in for a new tundra. Maybe it won’t happen, time will tell. I haven’t had to repair a vehicle in 25 years due to being careful of the brand I buy,and I always keep them till over 200k. We‘ll see how things go. Best of luck again.

 

[GsRAM]

Nice tundra! Congrats! I dont care for the grille and front end at all personally, they should have made the Toyota emblem larger so it takes up more room on it. That big grille and those little lights dont do it for me, but it's a nice truck.

I do like Toyota and Honda, they build great vehicles that are reliable and hold their value. I have a 2007 Rav4 that's still running well. They have issues too so prepare yourself for that. Is yours V8 or the new twin turbo V6?

I'd consider a tundra but they dont have an HD version so no go for me. One thing I can say from personal experience is that Honda and Toyota take care of their customers after the sale way better than any of the big 3. Any issue I had with my Honda was quickly addressed and without any hassle. Toyota the same. The added bonus is if you take care of your vehicles and equipment like I do, come trade in time they are still worth something. Unlike any big 3 vehicle I've owned, at the 8 to 9 yr mark they want to give you peanuts for stuff that's still nice. What was the cost compared to the big 3?

Just my .02 though.... but nice truck, good choice and I hope it gives you good service (I'm sure it will)

 

[crazykid1994]

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Hi All,

This day has come, after 9 years of ownership of my 2013 ram 1500, at 120k miles, it's time to move on.

At 120k miles there are just too many things to fix and I didn't feel like throwing "good money after bad"... Lifters and cam or probably the entire long block, transmission won't get into D or R often , brake system warnings. After reading so many stories here how guys tried to upgrade the cam/lifters, did their research, spend tons of money, and keep having knocking or other cel codes, it just wasn't worth the risk to me, and my time and sanity are more valuable to me right now.

I was very disappointed in my ram for completely falling apart at 120k miles, and probably needing about 20k in repairs... I always took very good care of it, used redline 5-30 from the beginning, and was hoping to keep this truck for many more years.

I couldn't make myself buy another ram. I wanted one, was still attracted to them but why would I buy another ram with Chrysler not fixing lifter and manifold bolt issues for the past decade... Dealers around my area suck big time too, I hated wasting time, fighting with them trying to get multiple issues fixed.... So I made decision against ram, as well as other domestic brands.

Just sold my ram to carmax dealership for 13.5k luckily I didn't have any cel lights during the inspection, and the sales rep didn't understand what the lifter/cam engine noises were...

I will miss this community though. I've learned so much over the years on these forums! And members of this forum were always very helpful, mature and welcoming.

Getting used to my new Tundra 2022 now, but still miss my old ram (not the many issues though).

Hope your v6 twin turbo lasts. Hopefully Toyota learned a few things with fords original eco boost issues. My parents own a 2016 tundra with the 5.7 and use it to pull their 26’ boat. My father wants a new truck but I’ve told him to give it a few years to see how they do long term reliably for towing.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Best MDS delete ever !

Enjoy the new ride! Unlike these Rams you wont have to spend thousands to get it reliable

 

[tjfdesmo]

I wish you a million happy miles(no sarcasm). Interestingly, your Ram experience mirrors my Toyota experience. Endless problems and clueless dealers.

 

[BuschLatte420]

I went the opposite, was always a GM guy, purchased a 2022 4 runner which has a few issues that can not be resolved…always liked the look of rams. I went with a ram. If the new tundra was out for 3 years or so I probably would have gave it a try but also not a fan of the TT V6 & the need to lift a cab of a gasser for some repairs. Good luck to you! Test drove a 2022 tundra and it was nice. I went with the classic hoping it would behave being out for 14 years

 

[pacofortacos]

I don't think I could get used to that front end either - are their designers blind?

Bold design though lol.

 

[RamDiver]

Good luck with your new Toy.

I traded my '07 Tundra for a '21 Classic last January after maintenance costs were getting ridiculous. I'm partially to blame for not keeping up with the undercoating but the cost of replacement parts was astronomical.

If I recall correctly, the jobber alternator was about $1200 installed and about $1400 for a water pump. $400 for gas tank support straps, close to $200 for a tailpipe (part cost only). And don't even get me started on the costs of the remainder of the exhaust system. These are all Canadian $ so about 1.6+ x the US cost.

That said, while my warranty was still valid, Toyota Canada & Toyota USA took good care of me, mostly.

My truck was made for the US market which was excellent wrt warranty issues. When Toyota Canada dropped the ball on maintaining adequate inventory for a big recall, I just made an appointment in Upper NY state and had them complete the work. Zero problems other than an 80-minute drive through the Adirondack mountains in limp mode.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Hope your v6 twin turbo lasts. Hopefully Toyota learned a few things with fords original eco boost issues. My parents own a 2016 tundra with the 5.7 and use it to pull their 26’ boat. My father wants a new truck but I’ve told him to give it a few years to see how they do long term reliably for towing.

Anything can be made to work - for a while. The question is, what's a while?
Primary example: top fuel dragster or funny car avg. engine life is 36 seconds @ sub 4 second 1/4 mile runs.
Conversely, natural gas pumping station engines last 40,000 hours.
Auto makers installing overstressed motors to meet EPA CAFE mileage regs gets them off the lot only to have early failures.