First Ram!:) 3.0 inline 6

[DanAR]

I've had my '23 for a year now...I'm STILL getting used to the knob selector! Have you slammed it into P yet when getting ready to back up?

My 23 is almost a year old too and I have done that, actually pretty recently. A knob is not as intuitive as a shift lever for most of us.

@Six Turboed - on the 25, how smooth is the stop/start feature on the truck?

 

[ramffml]

My 23 is almost a year old too and I have done that, actually pretty recently. A knob is not as intuitive as a shift lever for most of us.

@Six Turboed - on the 25, how smooth is the stop/start feature on the truck?

I absolutely hated the knob at first, almost didn't buy it because I wanted the GM column shifter. At a certain point 2 to 3 years in on my ownership and I realized that I hadn't even thought about it in months, and now I love it. It's super quick to operate, frees up space, doesn't block your view of the infotainment like the column shifter does.

"Intuitive", well that depends on what you grew up with. If you only drove stick and then hopped into a Ram I don't think you'd have a problem figuring out how it works anymore than you would the column shifter.

And there is safety built into the knob, once you're moving more than a few mph it won't actually let you turn the knob destructively. So I've read, never had the courage to try and go from neutral to reverse at 50 mph because ya know it's electronics built by Ram and you never know when the electronics decides to take the day off.

I think it can be improved by making the detents stiffer and more chunky. They feel a little too soft for my taste because the feedback should match the importance of what you're doing.

All my 2 cents of course.

 

[MD Sledhead]

I was the same with my 2014... almost bought a 2013 6-speed to get the shifter (duh).

I'm now the opposite. When I drive the wife's Jeep Grand Cherokee, I'm constantly reaching for the knob instead of the console shifter.

 

[Six Turboed]

My 23 is almost a year old too and I have done that, actually pretty recently. A knob is not as intuitive as a shift lever for most of us.

@Six Turboed - on the 25, how smooth is the stop/start feature on the truck?

I don’t use it. I shut that off right after I start the truck.
I had forgotten all about that feature and I had to stop at a light and pushed the pedal and there was a spilt second/hesitation before it caught up. I freaked thinking something went wrong. Fifty yards down the road it hit me and I realized what had happened. From that point it is a must do while my finger is still out from pushing the start button, I press that and then wait for it to come down to idle. I do not like the drop start dealy at all!! It is a bad idea IMHO!!!

 

[Six Turboed]

I change the oil twice a year (every six months) whether it needs it or not. Now that we purchased the extra insurance it’s even nicer because I have 10 free oil changes and that will last me five years. With a little over 700 miles I went and had the oil changed. The tech said everything looked good and checked out, I also took advantage and took a look underneath and everything looked right as rain! Now in 6 months I can go get my oil changed again! I do not drive much. Truck is running great, and since this thing will tow a house I plan on helping out a friend with a little lite hauling/towing when he gets in a bind. Onward and upward!

 

[Jrod]

what gearing does your truck have (rear end). And what has your highway mpgs been? I have not seen anyone get close to sticker/EPA rating yet.

Not my post but I took the plunge into a 2025 Laramie SST SO with 3.92 gears. I average 22mpg on the highway using cruise control set at 5 mph over the limit. I am currently averaging 17.5 city/hwy. My third fill up calculated my range at 429. With a 26 gallon tank it should be closer to 450, but there are other factors I may not be aware of. I've been running 87 / 88 octane with 10% / 15% ethanol. Temps have been mild on northern VA the last few weeks. I may try high octane for a couple of months next summer to see if there's a difference.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Not my post but I took the plunge into a 2025 Laramie SST SO with 3.92 gears. I average 22mpg on the highway using cruise control set at 5 mph over the limit. I am currently averaging 17.5 city/hwy. My third fill up calculated my range at 429. With a 26 gallon tank it should be closer to 450, but there are other factors I may not be aware of. I've been running 87 / 88 octane with 10% / 15% ethanol. Temps have been mild on northern VA the last few weeks. I may try high octane for a couple of months next summer to see if there's a difference.

Thanks for info. Presuming you had a Hemi previously, it this ~ +2 mpg over the 5.7 Hemi? I had one 2012-2018, and seem to recall that mileage.

I would have thought a 40% displacement reduction plus a turbo would have produced better mileage.

 

[turkeybird56]

Nope. My son had a 2025 Bighorn SST motor and he averaged just under 21 on highway. I can match that with my 19 Hemi and I got heavier AT tires

 

[Jrod]

Thanks for info. Presuming you had a Hemi previously, it this ~ +2 mpg over the 5.7 Hemi? I had one 2012-2018, and seem to recall that mileage.

I would have thought a 40% displacement reduction plus a turbo would have produced better mileage.

I did, this is my fifth RAM. I had a 2016 Sport 5.7 with 3.92 gears and 26 gallon tank for 8.5 years. I averaged 14.5 with it. Here’s a pic from my last fill up with my new 2025. I recorded the range to measure my average. It was actually 17.7 and 430, so +3 to be more accurate.

 

[HEMIMANN]

My 2012 with 5.7 Hemi, 3.73 axle, and weight of 4x4 and crew cab averaged 16 mpg mixed, 20 mpg highway.

In summer, of course. 87 octane with 10% ethanol

 

[MD Sledhead]

Not my post but I took the plunge into a 2025 Laramie SST SO with 3.92 gears. I average 22mpg on the highway using cruise control set at 5 mph over the limit. I am currently averaging 17.5 city/hwy. My third fill up calculated my range at 429. With a 26 gallon tank it should be closer to 450, but there are other factors I may not be aware of. I've been running 87 / 88 octane with 10% / 15% ethanol. Temps have been mild on northern VA the last few weeks. I may try high octane for a couple of months next summer to see if there's a difference.

Very interesting... so you're not forced to run 91 octane?
I have a 2024 Limited Hemi with the 3.92 gears - mine won't sniff that! Then again, I'm up here in the mountains and typically run 80 on the interstate. It's consistently around 15 mpg. No idea how it would be in the flatlands.
Don't know how you use cruise in Northern VA... the traffic is nuts.

 

[MD Sledhead]

I don’t use it. I shut that off right after I start the truck.
I had forgotten all about that feature and I had to stop at a light and pushed the pedal and there was a spilt second/hesitation before it caught up. I freaked thinking something went wrong. Fifty yards down the road it hit me and I realized what had happened. From that point it is a must do while my finger is still out from pushing the start button, I press that and then wait for it to come down to idle. I do not like the drop start dealy at all!! It is a bad idea IMHO!!!

I hate it as well... but it would be great if they would just program the dang thing to shut after being stopped for 5 seconds.
I also find myself rolling through stop signs to avoid it shutting down. The dumb thing actually shuts off before you come to a complete stop!

 

[Jrod]

Very interesting... so you're not forced to run 91 octane?
I have a 2024 Limited Hemi with the 3.92 gears - mine won't sniff that! Then again, I'm up here in the mountains and typically run 80 on the interstate. It's consistently around 15 mpg. No idea how it would be in the flatlands.
Don't know how you use cruise in Northern VA... the traffic is nuts.

Nice, I like the mountain areas. I'm close to Quantico near I95, so its fairly flat here. Adaptive cruise control on these 2025's make it easy with traffic. And no, 91 octane is only required if you have the HO version. Mine is SO, so I can run any octane. High octane is recommended, but not required, when towing and or in summer months if you want to increase SO performance.

 

[DanAR]

I hate it as well... but it would be great if they would just program the dang thing to shut after being stopped for 5 seconds.
I also find myself rolling through stop signs to avoid it shutting down. The dumb thing actually shuts off before you come to a complete stop!

Amen. Nothing much more irritating trying to creep into the garage careful not to bump a mirror or hit my wheel stop to hard and shove it and it keeps shutting down and restarting with a lurch.

 

[MD Sledhead]

Amen. Nothing much more irritating trying to creep into the garage careful not to bump a mirror or hit my wheel stop to hard and shove it and it keeps shutting down and restarting with a lurch.

I don't have a wheel stop... just a garage full of expensive "toys"

 

[MD Sledhead]

Nice, I like the mountain areas. I'm close to Quantico near I95, so its fairly flat here. Adaptive cruise control on these 2025's make it easy with traffic. And no, 91 octane is only required if you have the HO version. Mine is SO, so I can run any octane. High octane is recommended, but not required, when towing and or in summer months if you want to increase SO performance.

My "Limited" doesn't have that... it doesn't have park sense or wireless charging or power side steps or a decent stereo system
(hoping you can hear the bitterness)
But I do have the Hemi and 3.92 gearing - that's what I wanted.

I don't understand how my towing capacity exceeds the 2025 Limited (HO with 3.92s) by 2,000 lbs. It is supposed to have so much more HP and Torque than my V8 (and probably lighter). Doesn't make sense.

 

[ramffml]

My "Limited" doesn't have that... it doesn't have park sense or wireless charging or power side steps or a decent stereo system
(hoping you can hear the bitterness)
But I do have the Hemi and 3.92 gearing - that's what I wanted.

I don't understand how my towing capacity exceeds the 2025 Limited (HO with 3.92s) by 2,000 lbs. It is supposed to have so much more HP and Torque than my V8 (and probably lighter). Doesn't make sense.

All half tons should be limited to about 8000 pounds, give or take a few, despite what the marketing says. Experienced drivers can push it a little, newbies shouldn't.

As you can see, these guys paint themselves into corners trying to have the highest tow rating but its nonsense.

For fun, check out the tow ratings of a 2019 5.7 hemi 3.21 vs 2019 3.6 pentastar and 3.92. Within about 800 pounds IIRC, and anyone who has driven both trucks and towed with both will say the same thing: there is no way that 3.6 can tow the same load minus 800 pounds vs the 5.7.

 

[Jrod]

My "Limited" doesn't have that... it doesn't have park sense or wireless charging or power side steps or a decent stereo system
(hoping you can hear the bitterness)
But I do have the Hemi and 3.92 gearing - that's what I wanted.

I don't understand how my towing capacity exceeds the 2025 Limited (HO with 3.92s) by 2,000 lbs. It is supposed to have so much more HP and Torque than my V8 (and probably lighter). Doesn't make sense.

Lol I hear it.

I don’t understand it either. In all honesty towing doesn’t affect me. My truck is primarily a daily driver. The only thing I tow occasionally is a standard high side trailer for random odd jobs throughout the year. My only guess regarding towing capacity would probably be maintaining temperature? I learned turbos run hot. So maybe the naturally aspirated hemi can withstand more load. Again, I’m no expert, it’s just a guess.

 

[turkeybird56]

Lol I hear it.

I don’t understand it either. In all honesty towing doesn’t affect me. My truck is primarily a daily driver. The only thing I tow occasionally is a standard high side trailer for random odd jobs throughout the year. My only guess regarding towing capacity would probably be maintaining temperature? I learned turbos run hot. So maybe the naturally aspirated hemi can withstand more load. Again, I’m no expert, it’s just a guess.

I do not tow often, mostly to transport Hossie to Vet or get Hay. But with 3:21 rear end, sometimes interesting. But than I got a 2019, straight Hemi, no E junkola. But my trailer and hay hits 5,200 to 6,200 (and maybe wee bit more), depending upon hay density when loaded. I would not wanna go any higher than 8,000 lbs. But than, I tow stock, no WDH, but I am only moving local. Just FTR, trailer is older WW, weighs 2,150 lbs before even start, so I get a booming 12 ish mpg. But as U know, Hemi pull that weight no issue. Run 89 octane year round.

WORST PART: Usually getting hay late July, early August, with temps minimum 100 degrees. And I have to get at least 2 full loads. I am finding now it is getting really hard to unload and stack that hay these days, gruffled old wore out BOIRD.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Well, remember a 3.0L turbo engine with that high an output is gonna be derated a lot for heavier loads.

This all goes back to advertising horsepower and fuel economy - not durability and heavy loads.

Unknowlegeable people are easily fooled. Until their engines break 4-5 years later.
I can hear it now - "why didn't it last?".

Physics doesn't cease to exist when salesmen say so.