I-6 hurricane torture test

[oledirteh]

First The Silverado, Then the F-150 & Now the New Ram 1500 FAILS the TFL Towing Torture Test!

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interesting.

 

[chri5k]

I like with the I6 you can easily see the ground through the engine compartment. Haven't seen that on a engine bay in quite some time.

 

[ramffml]

As much as I don't want to say it, the 5.7 hemi would also fail this test. These trucks don't have enough cooling.

 

[Six Turboed]

Yay for the Ram! it made it to the top which is a good point past the others. I think I would have to agree it would be because of the angle of the dangle! HA,,,,, being this is my first Ram this makes me feel all fuzzy inside!

 

[oledirteh]

im feeling wierd about not including a dipstick on these things. interesting it was in low oil pressure at the time. like they said, curious if it got so hot it ran thin and so forth.

im not going to lie, its impressive that it did it with a skid loader out back.

what is hard core about this climb is the dirt road. that will heat up a truck faster then anything. i was towing a 20ft car trailer with a 2000lb can am x3 to a parking area on top of a mountain and it was sharp turns all the way up on dirt/rock road and it put my truck into a level of heat ive never seen lol.

 

[ramffml]

So the temps were in control, that's actually surprising and good to hear. Low oil pressure though, who'd a thunk running 0w-20 isn't quite up to the job for towing.

 

[yakalong]

good video

 

[20IndyRam]

im feeling wierd about not including a dipstick on these things. interesting it was in low oil pressure at the time. like they said, curious if it got so hot it ran thin and so forth.

im not going to lie, its impressive that it did it with a skid loader out back.

what is hard core about this climb is the dirt road. that will heat up a truck faster then anything. i was towing a 20ft car trailer with a 2000lb can am x3 to a parking area on top of a mountain and it was sharp turns all the way up on dirt/rock road and it put my truck into a level of heat ive never seen lol.

I agree. I felt the same way about the fact that my 2006 Chrysler 300C didn't have a transmission dipstick.

18 years and 200K miles later - I'm over it.

Doesn't mean you don't need to check levels and maintain your vehicle. You just have to do it differently.

Live and learn

 

[Ramfanski]

Warmer oil makes for less pressure on the dash at idle. They will just adjust the software so that it can idle at a little lower pressure when it’s really hot.

 

[Wild one]

I agree. I felt the same way about the fact that my 2006 Chrysler 300C didn't have a transmission dipstick.

18 years and 200K miles later - I'm over it.

Doesn't mean you don't need to check levels and maintain your vehicle. You just have to do it differently.

Live and learn

But at least you could buy a dipstick to check it's transmission fluid,as it still had the dipstick tube,just no dipstick in it,lol

 

[mikeru]

But at least you could buy a dipstick to check it's transmission fluid,as it still had the dipstick tube,just no dipstick in it,lol

Every Audi I've owned has had a dipstick tube even if there was no dipstick, and I was able to buy an aftermarket dipstick for each one. I don't use it to check oil level so much as I use it to monitor the condition of the oil. The SO Hurricane doesn't have a dipstick tube so you can't even do that. As they said in the video, the gauge tells you nothing about the condition of the oil. I have no idea if the HO version has a dipstick tube or not but I am going to assume it does not.

 

[howie12]

seems to me a smart reprogramming would be to up a idle speed a few hundred RPMs when oil reaches a temp that is likely to cause sufficient drop in viscosity to cause low oil pressure. A little faster idle pumps more oil at a higher pressure, and more cooling water and will help cool down the the retained heat from the climb in the complete engine and its fluids more quickly.

 

[Dusty]

I noticed that they captured the indicated oil pressure at 3000 RPM several times showing 17 PSI oil pressure. That was way before the top of the hill. Then after it sat idling for a while the oil pressure went from red to white, but still showing 17, I believe. Either there's a bad oil pressure sensor, low oil pressure is normal, or that engine has a more serious problem.

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 117544 miles.

 

[Marshall]

they where pulling a heavier load on a way hotter day then the others trucks, load was at max.
anyone should know that full throttle at 25-30mph up a steep mountain ,the oil will be like water, idle at 1000-1200rpm, that light would not have came on.
Those boys should know stuff like that.
But it was a good test, passed in my option.

 

[ramffml]

I noticed that they captured the indicated oil pressure at 3000 RPM several times showing 17 PSI oil pressure. That was way before the top of the hill. Then after it sat idling for a while the oil pressure went from red to white, but still showing 17, I believe. Either there's a bad oil pressure sensor, low oil pressure is normal, or that engine has a more serious problem.

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 117544 miles.

or... run a real oil at 5w-30 min? I feel we just had this discussion, having a little de-ja vu here.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Every Audi I've owned has had a dipstick tube even if there was no dipstick, and I was able to buy an aftermarket dipstick for each one. I don't use it to check oil level so much as I use it to monitor the condition of the oil. The SO Hurricane doesn't have a dipstick tube so you can't even do that. As they said in the video, the gauge tells you nothing about the condition of the oil. I have no idea if the HO version has a dipstick tube or not but I am going to assume it does not.

I just watched an interview with one of the main Stellantis engineers and he said (summarized): Nobody checks their oil level anyway so this is better since it's automatic and a warning light will tell you if it's low.

I found the interview informative overall, but that kind of stuck in my craw a bit. If nothing else, people use the dipstick when they do an oil change, right? Lube tech or owner, I've never just blindly trusted that I'd added the correct amount and I know our fleet mechanics are required to check the dipstick before signing off on any service, even if unrelated to the oil. (Every vehicle that comes in, even if for a tire or something, gets a set inspection checklist done while it's there)

Especially when adding from bulk containers or 5q jugs, always verify. I'm not sure how you do that with no dipstick (absent special use cases that aren't relevant here, like the observation window on Goldwings). How does the position sensor tell if it's *over* filled?

 

[Dusty]

I just watched an interview with one of the main Stellantis engineers and he said (summarized): Nobody checks their oil level anyway so this is better since it's automatic and a warning light will tell you if it's low.

I found the interview informative overall, but that kind of stuck in my craw a bit. If nothing else, people use the dipstick when they do an oil change, right? Lube tech or owner, I've never just blindly trusted that I'd added the correct amount and I know our fleet mechanics are required to check the dipstick before signing off on any service, even if unrelated to the oil. (Every vehicle that comes in, even if for a tire or something, gets a set inspection checklist done while it's there)

Especially when adding from bulk containers or 5q jugs, always verify. I'm not sure how you do that with no dipstick (absent special use cases that aren't relevant here, like the observation window on Goldwings). How does the position sensor tell if it's *over* filled?

The problem I have with relying on a sensor system, is it presents yet another sensor and sensor circuit to fail.

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 117667 miles.

 

[mikeru]

I just watched an interview with one of the main Stellantis engineers and he said (summarized): Nobody checks their oil level anyway so this is better since it's automatic and a warning light will tell you if it's low.

I found the interview informative overall, but that kind of stuck in my craw a bit. If nothing else, people use the dipstick when they do an oil change, right? Lube tech or owner, I've never just blindly trusted that I'd added the correct amount and I know our fleet mechanics are required to check the dipstick before signing off on any service, even if unrelated to the oil. (Every vehicle that comes in, even if for a tire or something, gets a set inspection checklist done while it's there)

Especially when adding from bulk containers or 5q jugs, always verify. I'm not sure how you do that with no dipstick (absent special use cases that aren't relevant here, like the observation window on Goldwings). How does the position sensor tell if it's *over* filled?

First of all, we all know he's wrong in saying "Nobody checks their oil level". It's obviously an exaggeration. But insulting to those of us who do check our oil level and condition using a dip stick.

I absolutely agree with you about checking oil level after an oil change. I know I poured 7 quarts in but it never hurts to verify that's what's in there.

My Audi will tell me if it is overfilled. Not sure if that's the case with the Hurricane or not. But the system requires the oil to be warmed up and the engine to be shut off for a specific period of time before it's "accurate". I don't trust the system on my Audi, which is why I purchased an aftermarket dip stick to verify oil level after an oil change. It's fine to have a sensor checking oil level. Just don't remove the dip stick in the process.

 

[DanAR]

I just watched an interview with one of the main Stellantis engineers and he said (summarized): Nobody checks their oil level anyway so this is better since it's automatic and a warning light will tell you if it's low.

I found the interview informative overall, but that kind of stuck in my craw a bit. If nothing else, people use the dipstick when they do an oil change, right? Lube tech or owner, I've never just blindly trusted that I'd added the correct amount and I know our fleet mechanics are required to check the dipstick before signing off on any service, even if unrelated to the oil. (Every vehicle that comes in, even if for a tire or something, gets a set inspection checklist done while it's there)

Especially when adding from bulk containers or 5q jugs, always verify. I'm not sure how you do that with no dipstick (absent special use cases that aren't relevant here, like the observation window on Goldwings). How does the position sensor tell if it's *over*

I agree. If I fill any of my newer cars crankcase with the stated capacity of oil they will be way overfilled. Even when I hold out a 1/2 quart they often are overfilled after starting and then letting it sit. So now I typically hold back about 3/4 quart until I can check it.

 

[Marshall]

A engineer likely don’t know how a dipstick works
DanAR, are your prefilling the oil filter, that could do it