Insane Fuel Consumption.

[SolidWaste]

Newer vehicles are harder to syphon fuel out of now,but way back when i was a kid i knew a guy who worked for a towing company,and he had a cheap electric fuel pump rigged to a a couple jerry cans,and he was syphoning fuel out of pretty well every vehicle he towed,he was selling it cheap to a few of the local young guys.He was finally caught redhanded by a vehicle owner who'd followed him to the side streets where he was doing the syphoning,and he was leaking a bit of blood* when the vehicle owner was done with him,and looking for another job,once the owner of the towing company was informed

I work for a County, so I dont feel that strongly about it. If that is whats happening I am sure he will be looking for a new job soon. I got the camera installed but he knows i am looking for the reason the gas bill is so high.

 

[SolidWaste]

Didn’t read all the posts. Someone may have mentioned it already, but I’d suggest you should look for a vacuum leak. As the vehicle sucks in more air as a result of the leak this will be reported to the BCM. Which will then compensate by dumping more fuel to equal out the air to fuel ratio. Hence, the excessive fuel consumption.

I didn't even think of that. I wonder if I could find a map online so I know where they all are to check them. Thank you for this comment. No on has said it yet (to my not so good memory).

 

[zrock]

I work for a County, so I dont feel that strongly about it. If that is whats happening I am sure he will be looking for a new job soon. I got the camera installed but he knows i am looking for the reason the gas bill is so high.

You may want to check local laws and labor board laws. Some places its against the law to put a camera in a work veh. Company i work for went and put camaras in all their trucks and a year later they still have not been activated as it was against employees rights.

 

[SolidWaste]

You may want to check local laws and labor board laws. Some places its against the law to put a camera in a work veh. Company i work for went and put camaras in all their trucks and a year later they still have not been activated as it was against employees rights.

We are in the clear here. We spent a ton on actual installed camera all over the place. His truck is in a blind spot, so one more wont hurt. It'll be a trail cam, but will do the dame thing.

 

[Tominator223]

If the oil smells of fuel , you may have some sticky injectors

 

[Wild one]

I didn't even think of that. I wonder if I could find a map online so I know where they all are to check them. Thank you for this comment. No on has said it yet (to my not so good memory).

Use some starting fluid to help find any vacumn leaks.Spray it around the manifold/throttle body etc. while the engines running,if the engine revs up,you'll have found your vacumn leak.

 

[RamDiver]

I cannot comprehend, with current gas prices and the crazy amount of self-important slime bags around, how manufacturers do not include some form of locking gas cap or a locking gas filler door. This is gross negligence in my mind.

I wonder if the same manufacturers include this feature across the pond, like they do with the sophisticated alarm systems that we North Americans are excluded from.

I've had locking gas caps on every vehicle I've owned since the early '80s, even the beaters.

I was very fortunate that when I mentioned this to the sales manager after signing for my Ram truck, he handed me a Mopar locking gas cap; he said he wasn't sure where it came from, but I was welcome to have it.

The online price for a Mopar locking gas cap seems a bit steep, but I would bet there's a cost-effective aftermarket solution.

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[Daw14]

If your boy just has a heavy foot , limit the amount the pedal can travel .

 

[Jas34]

Use some starting fluid to help find any vacumn leaks.Spray it around the manifold/throttle body etc. while the engines running,if the engine revs up,you'll have found your vacumn leak.

Call me old school, but I always used carb cleaner or propane. That said, these days, a decent scan tool and a look at the fuel trims should clue you in to whether it's even worth looking for a vacuum leak, I would think.

I could probably get 5-6 mpg out of my 2017 if I wanted to, and probably top off the fuel in our other car in the process.

 

[Wild one]

Call me old school, but I always used carb cleaner or propane. That said, these days, a decent scan tool and a look at the fuel trims should clue you in to whether it's even worth looking for a vacuum leak, I would think.

I could probably get 5-6 mpg out of my 2017 if I wanted to, and probably top off the fuel in our other car in the process.

I might be older old school as we always used starting fluid,but propane/carb cleaner etc. also work in a pinch,even Brake Clean works

 

[Docwagon1776]

I cannot comprehend, with current gas prices and the crazy amount of self-important slime bags around, how manufacturers do not include some form of locking gas cap or a locking gas filler door. This is gross negligence in my mind.

I wonder if the same manufacturers include this feature across the pond, like they do with the sophisticated alarm systems that we North Americans are excluded from.

I've had locking gas caps on every vehicle I've owned since the early '80s, even the beaters.

I was very fortunate that when I mentioned this to the sales manager after signing for my Ram truck, he handed me a Mopar locking gas cap; he said he wasn't sure where it came from, but I was welcome to have it.

The online price for a Mopar locking gas cap seems a bit steep, but I would bet there's a cost-effective aftermarket solution.

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Most fuel theft now is by drilling the tank, at least locally. It's faster, easier, and they don't give AF about the cost of the damage.

My guess, and just a guess, is most consumers do not want it unless it automatically unlocks with a fob or something. Getting a metal key out to refuel would be a step backwards in the convenience department.

 

[RamDiver]

Most fuel theft now is by drilling the tank, at least locally. It's faster, easier, and they don't give AF about the cost of the damage.

My guess, and just a guess, is most consumers do not want it unless it automatically unlocks with a fob or something. Getting a metal key out to refuel would be a step backwards in the convenience department.

That has merit: on average, many appear to have become far more lazy.

Aftermarket locking gas filler doors used to be very available, but not so much anymore.
Times are always changing, and not always getting better.

I know of a couple of remote Cave diving sites in North Florida where the SOP is to bring your own truck sitter, not like when I started 20 years ago.

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[Wild one]

Most fuel theft now is by drilling the tank, at least locally. It's faster, easier, and they don't give AF about the cost of the damage.

My guess, and just a guess, is most consumers do not want it unless it automatically unlocks with a fob or something. Getting a metal key out to refuel would be a step backwards in the convenience department.

They have a pretty decent locking filler door on the 300's,that's just a button to push to open,never did understand why they didn't have the same things on the trucks,although syphoning fuel out of the trucks is next to impossible,lol

 

[crash68]

Most fuel theft now is by drilling the tank, at least locally. It's faster, easier, and they don't give AF about the cost of the damage.

Yeap this happens ^^^
I put locking caps on both the diesel fuel and DEF filler ports, not so much worried about theft but someone putting something that doesn't belong in either tank.

 

[Rado]

O2 sensors are what I am checking next. They are in such a dumb spot. On top and the cat obviously isnt removable unless i want to cut it, but i need it installed to test. I'll just have to try and try i guess! No codes. I have a few tests I can do while driving with my OBD2 tool. I will be sure to update just incase it helps someone else; if I figure this out.

Can you test the O2 sensors with your scanner ? The one my Mechanic has read the O2 sensors if I remember

 

[Docwagon1776]

They have a pretty decent locking filler door on the 300's,that's just a button to push to open,never did understand why they didn't have the same things on the trucks,although syphoning fuel out of the trucks is next to impossible,lol

Saved fifty cents per unit or something, probably...

 

[Wild one]

Yeap this happens ^^^
I put locking caps on both the diesel fuel and DEF filler ports, not so much worried about theft but someone putting something that doesn't belong in either tank.

That makes me wonder if you've got mad ex-wife/girlfriend running around Crash,what did you do to p!ss her off

 

[crash68]

Crash,what did you do to p!ss her off

She's a real crazy one and I dated her younger sister. Last I heard she moved to Canada to be with her own kind.

 

[Evguy1]

She's a real crazy one and I dated her younger sister. Last I heard she moved to Canada to be with her own kind.

And your saying what about Canadians?

 

[Bob Horowski]

Being a 2008 I believe you could install a keyed locking gas cap. Keep the keys in YOUR possession until it is time to refuel the vehicle. You will at least know no one is stealing the fuel and then work on why so much fuel is being used.