Laramie Level 2 vs Level F?

[tensi0n]

Hello All,

I ordered a 2023 ram 2500 night edition with the level 2 equipment group back in September 2022. My truck has finally been built and I noticed on the updated POC copy I received from the dealer that the equipment group has been changed to "level F." Does anyone know why that is and what the difference is? Thank you.

 

[RamGuy110]

I think its missing the new digital gauge cluster, but don't quote me on that. When I was pondering ordering a Laramie, that's what the sales guy told me, due to a chip shortage.

 

[Ratman6161]

Hello All,

I ordered a 2023 ram 2500 night edition with the level 2 equipment group back in September 2022. My truck has finally been built and I noticed on the updated POC copy I received from the dealer that the equipment group has been changed to "level F." Does anyone know why that is and what the difference is? Thank you.

The biggest difference is that its more expensive. Actually on the 22 Laramie, its Level A and Level B. If you go to the Ram web site it will still let you build a '22 configuration. So you can look at a 22 level B and a 23 Level F. It does come with more stuff, but whether that's worth it is up to you and if you wanted those things anyway.

Copied and pasted from the web site:

22 Level B:
$4,470

• 17 Speaker Harman Kardon® Premium Sound
• 2nd-Row In-Floor Storage Bins
• Automatic High-Beam Headlamp-Control
• Mirror-Mounted Auxiliary Reverse Lamps
• Chrome Exterior Mirrors
• Power Adjustable Convex Aux Mirrors
• Exterior Mirrors with Supplemental Signals
• Exterior Mirrors Courtesy Lamps
• Exterior Mirrors with Heating Element
• Exterior Mirrors with Memory
• Door Trim Panel Foam Bottle Insert
• Heated Second-Row Seats
• Mirror Running Lights
• Power-Heated Folding Memory Trailer-Tow Mirrors
• Power Adjustable Pedals with Memory
• Power-Folding Mirrors
• Radio / Driver Seat / Mirrors / Pedals Memory
• Rain-Sensitive Windshield Wipers
• Remote Tailgate-Release
• Trailer-Tow Mirrors
• Uconnect® 5 Nav with 8.4-Inch Touch Screen Display
• Ramcharger Wireless Charging-Pad (Unavailable with some configurations)

23 Level F:
$4,995

• 12.0-Inch Touchscreen Display
• 2nd-Row In-Floor Storage Bins
• 4G LTE Wi-Fi Hot Spot with Trial Included
• Alexa Built-In (Wi-Fi Required)
• Apple CarPlay®
• Automatic Adjust-in-Reverse Exterior Mirrors
• Auto Dimming Exterior Mirror
• Automatic-Dimming Exterior Passenger-Mirror
• Automatic High-Beam Headlamp-Control
• Automatic Power-Folding Mirrors
• Blind-Spot with Tag Trailer & Cross-Path Detection
• Chrome Exterior Mirrors
• Connected Travel and Traffic Services
• Ram Connect (Connected Services) with Trial
• Power Adjustable Convex Aux Mirrors
• Disassociated Touchscreen Display
• Emergency Vehicle Alert System
• Exterior Mirrors with Supplemental Signals
• Exterior Mirrors Courtesy Lamps
• Exterior Mirrors with Heating Element
• Exterior Mirrors with Memory
• Door Trim Panel Foam Bottle Insert
• Forward and Reverse Utility Lights
• Front LED Fog Lamps
• Google Android Auto™
• GPS Antenna Input
• GPS Navigation
• HD™ Radio
• Heated Second-Row Seats
• Integrated Voice Command
• LED Reflector Headlamps
• Power Heat/Fold/Telescoping Memory Mirrors
• Mirror Running Lights
• Off-Road Info Pages
• ParkSense® Front and Rear Park-Assist System
• Power Adjustable Pedals with Memory
• Power Adjustable Mirrors
• Power Telescoping Mirrors
• Radio / Driver Seat / Mirrors / Pedals Memory
• Rain-Sensitive Windshield Wipers
• Rear Power-Sliding Window
• Rear Window Defroster
• Remote Tailgate-Release
• Selectable Tire-Fill Alert
• SiriusXM® 360L with 6-Month Sub Call 800-643-2112
• SiriusXM® Radio Trial Subscription
• Trailer Tow Pages
• Uconnect® 5 Nav with 12.0-Inch Touch Screen Display
• For Details, Visit DriveUconnect.com
• For More Info, Call 800-643-2112
• 17 Speaker Harman Kardon® Premium Sound
• Black Exterior Mirrors (Unavailable with some configurations)
• Ramcharger Wireless Charging-Pad (Unavailable with some configurations)
• Global Telematics Box Module (TBM) (Unavailable with some configurations)

 

[GlennRH]

In the market and while I can understand the reasons behind it I sure miss the times when if you wanted an option or two you were not forced into buying another thirty items you have to worry about.

 

[tensi0n]

I think its missing the new digital gauge cluster, but don't quote me on that. When I was pondering ordering a Laramie, that's what the sales guy told me, due to a chip shortage.

Yeah I had a feeling that's what happened and is what's going on. I honestly like the analog/small digital screen but lame that they aren't including the large screen. I think I'm more annoyed that they axed it and are still charging an arm and a leg for that package.

 

[Riccochet]

In the market and while I can understand the reasons behind it I sure miss the times when if you wanted an option or two you were not forced into buying another thirty items you have to worry about.

At least Ram isn't as bad as Ford who will completely omit certain options without jumping up the next trim level. At least that's how it was when I was shopping in 2021 for my truck. I was shopping XLT's, but if I wanted LED headlights or a leather wrapped steering wheel I needed to jump up to a Lariat. But I didn't want leather seats, and cloth wasn't an option on the Lariat. Where at least with Ram you can build a Bighorn to be 99% of what a Laramie is, sans the leather seats.

Also, the online configurators are absolute garbage. Haven't used either in a while, but on the 2500's certain appearance packages forced you to have a diesel. You'd select either the sport or night package and it changed the motor back to a diesel.

Best thing to do is go in to a dealer and configure your truck in their system. It's a lot more customizable.

 

[RamGuy110]

Yeah I had a feeling that's what happened and is what's going on. I honestly like the analog/small digital screen but lame that they aren't including the large screen. I think I'm more annoyed that they axed it and are still charging an arm and a leg for that package.

I was really close to pulling the trigger on one or going back to the limited. You will still get the digital gauge cluster on a limited, but they discontinued the wood grain steering wheel from what I've seen, yet more $$$$.