Low temperature cold start failed

[fengfengfeng]

This is always the case in winter these two years. The fuel, the oil were all replaced, and the throttle was cleaned without any change. There is no fault code, as long as it is parked below 0 °C, the lower the temperature, the easier it is to extinguish. It is very easy to start again the second time. Today's remote start failed again. If the low temperature remote start is not available, what is the meaning of my purchase?
this -10℃
this 0℃

 

[Arth]

Um... call me crazy but shouldn't you be plugging that truck in at that point?

I know it's not a diesel but -10 Celsius is really cold even for gas.

 

[Mike Flea]

-10 C is 14 F, if you have to use a heater at that temp, there's something seriously wrong with your gas engine

 

[Burla]

maybe china needs winter blend gas

I'd get my battery tested and try some PEA fuel cleaners maybe. Kinda stumped, that shouldnt be happening imo.

 

[fengfengfeng]

Um... call me crazy but shouldn't you be plugging that truck in at that point?

I know it's not a diesel but -10 Celsius is really cold even for gas.

Hello, first of all, thank you for your reply. My car has a 115v heater, but I don't have any power and my garage won't fit our truck. It's cold - 10 ℃? In China's northeast winter can reach below -30 ℃.

 

[fengfengfeng]

-10 C is 14 F, if you have to use a heater at that temp, there's something seriously wrong with your gas engine

Thank you for your attention. As I said, I park outside in the parking lot. My garage can't fit it, so I can't use the heater. I think the truck in - 10 ℃ should be able to start properly, there will not be shut down, at least my Toyota did not exist.

 

[fengfengfeng]

maybe china needs winter blend gas

I'd get my battery tested and try some PEA fuel cleaners maybe. Kinda stumped, that shouldnt be happening imo.

Thank you for your reply. I have tested the battery when there was a problem last year. There is no problem with its performance. Nothing wrong was found. Later, the weather began to get warmer. The fault began to disappear and I did not continue to check until a few days ago when it started to get cold again. Something is happening again. I have used a lot of pea cleaner and checked the spark plug, fuel, engine oil, fuel pump, throttle valve body without any problems. My car was only 20000km when the problem occurred last year. Several other cars in our area have had this problem on occasion. At this temperature, do you drive like this?

 

[fengfengfeng]

maybe china needs winter blend gas

I'd get my battery tested and try some PEA fuel cleaners maybe. Kinda stumped, that shouldnt be happening imo.

What is winter blend gas? Do you have any special gasoline for winter? I haven't. Our gasoline number here is 92_95_98. Our gasoline is yellow. Size 95 May not be as good as size 89 in the United States.

 

[Old Fart]

I will usually plug our vehicles when the temp is -20 C or colder. The winter gas is just an additive the the companies add to the gas. An easy and cheap thing to try is a bottle of gas line antifreeze. Sometimes if you have excess water in your fuel it may react like your video.

 

[joshuaeb09]

What is winter blend gas? Do you have any special gasoline for winter? I haven't. Our gasoline number here is 92_95_98. Our gasoline is yellow. Size 95 May not be as good as size 89 in the United States.

Winter blend gas has a lower vapor pressure so that it can still atomize well under cold conditions. This is more than likely a fuel quality issue as my Challenger will do the same exact thing if I haven't burned off all my summer blend and try to start it on a cold (For South Texas) winter morning when its not in the garage. You could try a water remover/winter additive like iso-heet (Not sure whats available in China, but its just mostly isopropanol), but without being able to source a better winter fuel a block heater is likely your best bet.

https://www.goldeagle.com/product/iso-heet-fuel-line-antifreeze-injector-cleaner/

 

[fengfengfeng]

I will usually plug our vehicles when the temp is -20 C or colder. The winter gas is just an additive the the companies add to the gas. An easy and cheap thing to try is a bottle of gas line antifreeze. Sometimes if you have excess water in your fuel it may react like your video.

Thank you very much for your explanation. I never knew there were gasoline winter additives. Gas stations don't label them. I only know the diesel number refers to the operating temperature. As far as I know, the engine performance of officially imported vehicles will be lower than that of the same vehicles sold in other countries. The explanation is to accommodate China's poor-quality fuelMy truck is not an official import, has not been adjusted engine, is there a little indigestion...

 

[fengfengfeng]

I will usually plug our vehicles when the temp is -20 C or colder. The winter gas is just an additive the the companies add to the gas. An easy and cheap thing to try is a bottle of gas line antifreeze. Sometimes if you have excess water in your fuel it may react like your video.

Thank you very much for your explanation. I never knew there were gasoline winter additives. Gas stations don't label them. I only know the diesel number refers to the operating temperature. As far as I know, the engine performance of officially imported vehicles will be lower than that of the same vehicles sold in other countries. The explanation is to accommodate China's poor-quality fuelMy truck is not an official import, has not been adjusted engine, is there a little indigestion...

 

[fengfengfeng]

Winter blend gas has a lower vapor pressure so that it can still atomize well under cold conditions. This is more than likely a fuel quality issue as my Challenger will do the same exact thing if I haven't burned off all my summer blend and try to start it on a cold (For South Texas) winter morning when its not in the garage. You could try a water remover/winter additive like iso-heet (Not sure whats available in China, but its just mostly isopropanol), but without being able to source a better winter fuel a block heater is likely your best bet.

https://www.goldeagle.com/product/iso-heet-fuel-line-antifreeze-injector-cleaner/

Thank you for your advice. I will look up the additive you mentioned. I have never used this kind of additive before. I always thought gasoline had no seasonality. My friend bought a challenger. 3.6 SXT, which cost it $73,000, and does not include 10% consumption tax, insurance and so on.

 

[Burla]

I would still look for a PEA cleaner like Redline s1-1 or techron concentrate and maybe an Octane boost. Using rubbing alcohol to increase octane can be tricky. From what I've heard/read whatever somewhere in my memory banks, that only works if you used high octane fuel in the first place, to make that even higher, and it looks like that isn't an option there. Probably wouldn't hurt to try though. What octane do you use? You use the 98 and this still happens? I'd get a quality octane booster with techron in some form. I guess the downside is you will have that expense in every tank. Gas is not like diesel, I don't think the issue is water, I could be wrong, maybe stuff is so ***** over there it is that, but in the states that is very rare since all of the upgrading we did in the 90's with mtbe. Another thing you may just do is go ahead and keep dealing with this issue, just accept it takes a little longer for your truck to start, it aint hurting nothing.

 

[Burla]

If you are real interested in solving this get an octane tester for 100 bucks, and do test all your fuels and try adding an ounce per gallon and see what that number is. It may be that China's gas doesn't even meet the number listed in the first place, I doubt that adding a 16 ounce bottle of whatever will boost that enough to solve the problem, you may be adding 5 bottles.

 

[Mike Flea]

fengfeng, like some of these guys have mentioned, if you can't get a winter blend gas, then maybe you need to look into adding a store-bought fuel additive like Heet or STP Fuel Treatment

 

[Richmond2000]

i know old thread BUT I will add I live in Canada now and winters here hit -37C and my truck is NOT plugged in at all at work and I leave work at 1 AM
it started up and stayed running in -37C
2014 HEMI 8 speed ZF8

 

[HammerHead]

This is always the case in winter these two years. The fuel, the oil were all replaced, and the throttle was cleaned without any change. There is no fault code, as long as it is parked below 0 °C, the lower the temperature, the easier it is to extinguish. It is very easy to start again the second time. Today's remote start failed again. If the low temperature remote start is not available, what is the meaning of my purchase?
this -10℃
this 0℃

In that second video I seen that your oil pressure was low, what oil were you running last winter?