Next question - any reason to avoid a 2021 75th anniversary? (see post #31)

[Westwind1124a]

Even at 5% under invoice, a similarly optioned truck would be $13-$15k more and an estimated *minimum* 20 week wait. If you can find me a new one with the lvl 2 and 360 camera for, say $65k, on the market then send me a link and I'll be ecstatic to look in to it.

It has a set of amp power steps too by the looks of the pictures. those are around 1500 as well. Probably worth a drive. looks nice!

 

[Docwagon1776]

I drove a 2021 75th anniversary closer to home today. I *really* liked that truck. I don't know WTF was wrong with the other one I drove, but this one rode so much better. I took a pretty rough railroad crossing at speed to see how it would do and I don't think I gave up much, if anything, over my 1500. Night and day vs the possibly modified one I'd driven before.

I'm not 100% decided, but I'm really leaning into the Power Wagon as my next truck.

Down side on this one: It was ziebarted or similar with the hard coat spray on the frame. I hate the hard coatings, they crack and hold water and cause rust vs prevent it, IMO. Whoever did it was not great at it, either, a lot of overspray and you can see wrinkles in the wheelwells. Has anyone tried to use the lanolin sprays over a ziebart coating with any luck?

 

[olyelr]

I drove a 2021 75th anniversary closer to home today. I *really* liked that truck. I don't know WTF was wrong with the other one I drove, but this one rode so much better. I took a pretty rough railroad crossing at speed to see how it would do and I don't think I gave up much, if anything, over my 1500. Night and day vs the possibly modified one I'd driven before.

I'm not 100% decided, but I'm really leaning into the Power Wagon as my next truck.

Down side on this one: It was ziebarted or similar with the hard coat spray on the frame. I hate the hard coatings, they crack and hold water and cause rust vs prevent it, IMO. Whoever did it was not great at it, either, a lot of overspray and you can see wrinkles in the wheelwells. Has anyone tried to use the lanolin sprays over a ziebart coating with any luck?

Ooooooof. That alone would probly be a deal killer for me. That sucks.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Ooooooof. That alone would probly be a deal killer for me. That sucks.

Yeah. I hate used truck shopping. It also has a pulsar thing installed, but they said they would remove it for me if I wanted them to. I guess the previous owner used it at "eco" thinking it would save gas.

So I actually did get a quote on a 2023. It's not terrible through Granger, a lvl 2 (which is apparently the old lvl 3) with the options I wanted ended up at: The MSRP is $80,755. The Invoice Price is $75,536. The sale price is $72,377.60.

That's the good news. Bad news is 6-9 months for delivery. I can wait that long, but it would leave me without a truck for a bit and I'd not have it for my planned Big Bend trip in March.

 

[retired]

not sure what you mean the old level 3? On Power Wagons in 2019 they introduced level 1 and level 2 and then in 2021 they introduced the 75th A and in 2022 the level 3 which is basically the 75a package.

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[Docwagon1776]

not sure what you mean the old level 3? On Power Wagons in 2019 they introduced level 1 and level 2 and then in 2021 they introduced the 75th A and in 2022 the level 3 which is basically the 75a package.

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2023 level 2 is 2022 level 3, options wise. I suspect they've done the same as Ford and eliminated a bottom trim but haven't confirmed.

In talks on 3 trucks.
2021 75th anniversary, used of course.
2022 level 3, in stock on the lot
2023 ordered, suck it up and wait the 6-9 months. Granger Dodge was *very* competitive and quick to answer.


Salesman on the 22: No pressure, but other salesmen are trying to move this truck as well. Trust me, I don't feel pressure on truck sales. Nobody's dead or dying. That said, no pressure, but other salesmen are trying to sell me their truck.

I did reach out on the modified '19 in Franklin KY. They said someone was looking at it this morning but if it didn't sell they'd take some underside pictures for me and give me the details.

What's funny is a few months ago the Power Wagon wasn't even on my radar, the 2018 I drove had put me off of them entirely. After driving a Rebel 1500 and F-150 Tremor I was pretty sold on the Tremor. The Rebel just didn't compete. But for general SnGs I decided to drive a new PW as well and *boom* back in the Ram camp. I'm still a little concerned on the range, but gas cans exist I suppose. Tremor is still fun, and still an option if everything falls through on the PWs, but the aesthetics and ride of the PW are very nice.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Long shot, I know, but anybody know about this truck: https://www.huntauto.com/used-Franklin-2019-RAM-2500-Power+Wagon-3C6TR5EJ2KG582965

It appears to have Fox shocks from the photo, unsure if the suspension has been modified further from what I can see. It's a drive for me, but not an undoable one.

Work has been absolutely nuts. Twice in 3 days I've gotten into bed to immediately get called back in. A little sleep deprived at the moment and I haven't had time to do much truck shopping/follow-up. Best I got from the dealership is it's a 2.5" lift, don't know the brand, but service manager said "it was done right". What else would he say, though, amirite? They did send me a very short video of the rear suspension, nothing on the front.

 

[olyelr]

Work has been absolutely nuts. Twice in 3 days I've gotten into bed to immediately get called back in. A little sleep deprived at the moment and I haven't had time to do much truck shopping/follow-up. Best I got from the dealership is it's a 2.5" lift, don't know the brand, but service manager said "it was done right". What else would he say, though, amirite? They did send me a very short video of the rear suspension, nothing on the front.

Im 99% positive its a thuren 1.5” power wagon kit with fox bypass shocks.

But yes, it could be anything and they would brag it up lol

 

[Docwagon1776]

Im 99% positive its a thuren 1.5” power wagon kit with fox bypass shocks.

But yes, it could be anything and they would brag it up lol

I tried to pull the trigger on a 2022 today but it was sold. Stuff doesn't sit on the lot much...

 

[Docwagon1776]

I tried to pull the trigger on a 2022 today but it was sold. Stuff doesn't sit on the lot much...

So who bought the Patriot Blue lvl 3 with sunroof and dual alternators from Mark Dodge in LA? You on here? You beat me by *this* much.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Instead of cluttering up the forum with another thread, I'm just editing the title on this one.

I've got a lead on a 2021 75th anniversary. Is there any reason to avoid this year? COVID build shortcuts or anything? Have they been solid or problematic comparatively?

 

[Fatbob Frank]

Instead of cluttering up the forum with another thread, I'm just editing the title on this one.

I've got a lead on a 2021 75th anniversary. Is there any reason to avoid this year? COVID build shortcuts or anything? Have they been solid or problematic comparatively?

Depends on the color...

 

[Dodge 1500 4X4]

What I heard is the leather on the seats are stretching and bunching up in places because of the stitching being so far apart.

 

[Docwagon1776]

What I heard is the leather on the seats are stretching and bunching up in places because of the stitching being so far apart.

I have seen some trucks doing it and some not, looking at photos online. I saw that issue here during searching and paid attention after that.

The one I was looking at in particular sold before it was out of detailing, so I missed that one. I've pretty well decided to buy a PW, and I like the 75th anniversary interior but it's been tough to find one that has the options I want. That one was very close to how I would have ordered it, it just had a few things I would not have checked the box for but none bother me. I'm on the fence about Ram Box bed, TBH, but it's not a deal breaker. I don't know I'd order the sunroof, but also not a deal breaker. Must be 75th/lvl 3 and must have camera package, though. I like tracer graphics more than the larger ones, prefer blue, red, or green to the other options. Molten orange looks interesting as well. If I order new, I'll go hydro blue 2 tone with tracer graphics.

 

[Pudge]

I’ve got a 21 75th and absolutely love it. my seats are great. They Added a lot of luxury trim to the inside, similar to the Limited 2500s and 1500s. to get the same in a 22, or 23, you would order with the level 3 package. But no PW prior to the 21 75th has the upgraded finishes. If that stuff doesn’t matter to you, anything from a 2019 and later will make you very happy.

I love the ride too. I came from a 2019 Ram 1500 to this and was worried it would be a lot rougher. It was not much different. The Ram 2500 non PW would be rougher for sure.

If the PW is new to you, then just make sure you are not assuming the tow and payload is the same as a normal 2500, or F250. It’s a little less. All depends on how you are using it.

I’ve had mine for 18 months and still in love with it and not had an ounce of problems with it. I installed 35” tires on it and improved the ride and the handling.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Depends on the color...

How so?

 

[Docwagon1776]

I’ve got a 21 75th and absolutely love it. my seats are great. They Added a lot of luxury trim to the inside, similar to the Limited 2500s and 1500s. to get the same in a 22, or 23, you would order with the level 3 package. But no PW prior to the 21 75th has the upgraded finishes. If that stuff doesn’t matter to you, anything from a 2019 and later will make you very happy.

I'm going 75th or level 3. Or, technically level 2 if it's a 2023 since level 2 in 2023 is level 3 in 2022. I think they eliminated the level 1 package, or more accurately eliminated the base and made lvl 1 the base.

I like the brown seats in the 75th, for sure. Just need to find one with the right options, miles, price vs just buying new.

 

[Fatbob Frank]

LOL- cause some colors are better than others.
White would be a deal breaker for me unless I could get it cheap enough to get it repainted...

 

[DrTron]

I'll go hydro blue 2 tone with tracer graphics.

Have a look at one first. I was toying with the hydro blue as well, but after seeing one in person I decided that it was just too much. Very happy with my patriot blue, though.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Have a look at one first. I was toying with the hydro blue as well, but after seeing one in person I decided that it was just too much. Very happy with my patriot blue, though.

I've seen all the current colors in person, I like hydro. My current truck is Flame Red, so I'm not opposed to bright colors. Patriot blue is nice as well, as is olive green pearl.